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14 minutes ago, grav said:

Protons are real? OK. tomato vs tomatto.

I define an atom as the smallest particle of aether. It is an individual thing. So a proton can be a positive charge, while an electron can be a negative charge. Done. No neutron or nucleus is necessary. Just + or - atoms. Yin/yang, 0/1, yes/no. These particles, or atoms if you wish, form bonds that we perceive as the electromagnetic spectrum. Some bonds are light and some are matter or plasma or whatever combination thereof. 

No agreement can ever be reached until opposing parties agree on definitions. The torus needs no nucleus. Can I get an amen from Tesla?

Except ID made a flat earth

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1 hour ago, grav said:

Protons are real? OK. tomato vs tomatto.

I define an atom as the smallest particle of aether. It is an individual thing. So a proton can be a positive charge, while an electron can be a negative charge. Done. No neutron or nucleus is necessary. Just + or - atoms. Yin/yang, 0/1, yes/no. These particles, or atoms if you wish, form bonds that we perceive as the electromagnetic spectrum. Some bonds are light and some are matter or plasma or whatever combination thereof. 

No agreement can ever be reached until opposing parties agree on definitions. The torus needs no nucleus. Can I get an amen from Tesla?

Does your Yin/Yang +, - concept obey the law of charges?

And, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not up on FE theory), FE believes in the concept of mass, correct ?

http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/Charge.html

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29 minutes ago, 2many secrets said:

Does your Yin/Yang +, - concept obey the law of charges?

And, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not up on FE theory) FE believes in the concept of mass, correct ?

http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/PY106/Charge.html

First, FEers almost never delve into these distinctions. They should, but dunno. 

Mass is the measure of matter (substance). So a cubic foot of air "weighs" x units and a cubic foot of water weighs y units. Why is water heavier than air? Its atoms (negative + positive particles) are more closely bonded. Why is that? 

Your turn to answer. What makes air and water? And little green apples and the other things that are matter? Light is also + and y atoms, right? So let's play like Nasa and make stuff up.  

Air = 15+ and 15-.

Water = 18+ and 13-.

Light in the UV range is 20+ and 15-

Not unlike filling those damn electron shells in chemistry class. That's all there is to the atom. No nucleus. No nuclear bombs. No Korea nukes. No fear porn.

 

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10 minutes ago, grav said:

First, FEers almost never delve into these distinctions. They should, but dunno. 

Mass is the measure of matter (substance). So a cubic foot of air "weighs" x units and a cubic foot of water weighs y units. Why is water heavier than air? Its atoms (negative + positive particles) are more closely bonded. Why is that? 

Your turn to answer. What makes air and water? And little green apples and the other things that are matter? Light is also + and y atoms, right? So let's play like Nasa and make stuff up.  

Air = 15+ and 15-.

Water = 18+ and 13-.

Light in the UV range is 20+ and 15-

Not unlike filling those damn electron shells in chemistry class. That's all there is to the atom. No nucleus. No nuclear bombs. No Korea nukes. No fear porn.

 

So, before you get too far ahead..

Answer my question please.. re the Law of charges. Are you in agreement or not?

I know you think there are two, + and -,or yin/yang because, you stated that earlier.

How about:

"like charges repel, unlike charges attract"

Do you agree with that one too ?

And, "fFirst, FEers almost never delve into these distinctions" , why do you suppose that is ?

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17 minutes ago, grav said:

Your turn to answer. What makes air and water? And little green apples and the other things that are matter? Light is also + and y atoms, right? So let's play like Nasa and make stuff up.  

What makes or, what are they made up of?

I can answer what they are made up of.. particles that obey the law of charges. I can't address the Quantum world because, I don't understand it. I'm not smart enough.

These things were/are called the building blocks of matter. I'm not sure what's being taught today. But, the concept holds.

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21 minutes ago, 2many secrets said:

Light is also + and y atoms, right?

I think you're saying (correct me if I'm wrong), that light has a positive charge and "y" atoms?

I don't think light has any atoms. Light doesn't really have any mass, none that can be measured anyway.

And, light has a charge = 0 , so, no + charge for light.

Light is about photons as opposed to protons. But, before we get too far ahead, I'd like to get the Law of Charges settled.. please.

 

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53 minutes ago, grav said:

Mass is the measure of matter (substance). So a cubic foot of air "weighs" x units and a cubic foot of water weighs y units. Why is water heavier than air? Its atoms (negative + positive particles) are more closely bonded. Why is that? 

 

Mass and weight are not the same.

Since the truth can only be found on YouTube, I have attached a video demonstrating weight changes in an elevator. It is a very simplistic test that anyone can do. Mass didn't change, but weight did.

 

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12 minutes ago, 2many secrets said:

So, before you get too far ahead..

1. Answer my question please.. re the Law of charges. Are you in agreement or not?

I know you think there are two, + and -,or yin/yang because, you stated that earlier.

How about:

"like charges repel, unlike charges attract"

Do you agree with that one too ?

2. And, "fFirst, FEers almost never delve into these distinctions" , why do you suppose that is ?

I numbered your questions for EZ reference.

1. I guess I agree. In our physical reality, we see charges behave this way. Now, as I asked you earlier, what makes matter? Why do "atoms" form different substances? What is lightning? Why does it need a nucleus when it is negatively charged electrons?

 

2. I already said dunno. FEers spend too much time, imo, repeating experiments that show conclusively that the earth is flat and the sun moves the way it does and other considerations. There is no organization, none, zilch. This is so big a hoax that amateurs have an almost impossible task of tearing down the old fake structures to build correct models. I think it's a test. The hamsters have to get their little butts in gear and figure out how to get out of their little hamster cage. When they get to a certain stage, they will be derezed and rebooted. They, btw, are we.

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Light and weight are mentioned in posts above. 

The word "atom" has too much baggage. It implies that we are talking about matter, such as solid objects. But we're talking about + or - charges as the thing we call the atom. But to just say "negative charge" is also unhelpful. 

I've never found a better word to name the basic unit of the aether. Maybe the dielectron, which can explain the smallest particle that makes up matter, light, plasma?

Weight and heavy are relative terms, of course. But we all understand the difference.

I thing there are real scientists who have nailed this concept down. Who and where are they? Electric Universe Thunderbolts? 

And this is another reason FEers rarely discuss this topic. As long as the atom and the nuclear rigmarole hold sway, we will be stuck in the goo of fake science.

 

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11 minutes ago, grav said:

what makes matter

I thought I answered that in the above frame #2 of 3.

It's tough to exchange ideas with you as we seem do disagree on so much. What I was trying to do is find the places where we do agree and then go from that point. It's pretty time consuming, I'm sure you see this too.

Jumping around isn't good for this process.. at least to my thinking.

As for substances, that's molecule territory ..and that's way beyond our discussion of charges and particles. So, if you're willing to return to that point, there is a lot more to that subject.

JRock brought up the difference between mass and weight. That's a big one, and must be understood!

I've got a few things to do, I'll check back.

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22 minutes ago, JRock said:

Since the truth can only be found on YouTube

Boy, that's good. I'll remember that one. I've avoided any videos in this exchange for a reason. But, carry on. You may break some ground.

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