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Was Alcohol ever a harmless source of calories?

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Alcohol is common in our environment. In some better time, was it simply a harmless source of calories, useful in cold climates. Useful for preserving the caloric value of grains without possibility of spoilage, the nutritive values of fruits? Is it possible that Russian alcoholism is a natural  human adaptive response to cold which only turned toxic in recent centuries?

https://theconversation.com/a-hangover-pill-tests-on-drunk-mice-show-promise-96188

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1 hour ago, lostlogin said:

Alcohol is common in our environment. In some better time, was it simply a harmless source of calories, useful in cold climates. Useful for preserving the caloric value of grains without possibility of spoilage, the nutritive values of fruits? Is it possible that Russian alcoholism is a natural  human adaptive response to cold which only turned toxic in recent centuries?

https://theconversation.com/a-hangover-pill-tests-on-drunk-mice-show-promise-96188

Back in the day people used to drink beer or wine frequently.  The reason was sanitation had not been developed yet and the water was frequently polluted.  If they drank beer, they did not come down with typhoid or cholera.

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5 hours ago, phxsparks said:

Back in the day people used to drink beer or wine frequently.  The reason was sanitation had not been developed yet and the water was frequently polluted.  If they drank beer, they did not come down with typhoid or cholera.

they also had much lower alcohol content ... otherwise water would be death aswell even at 6 percent you lose more water than gained

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11 minutes ago, markovian said:

they also had much lower alcohol content ... otherwise water would be death aswell even at 6 percent you lose more water than gained

You can drink nothing but light beer for months.

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They died much earlier, from alot worse things than alcohol. It served a purpose, but we evolved past it. Just like enjoying carbs and sweets, once life sustaining, now a health threat.

Times, they are a changing!

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The ability to tolerate alcohol might even make you a messenger of God. If, for example,  Mahavira was able to engage in consciously controlled auto brewery syndrome and effectively utilize the alcohol his gut produced from vegetable food that would've explained both his ability to go around naked as well as his sweet scent, if his gut produced vanillin from rice bran

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There seems to be a lot of sloppy, repetitive generalizations about this topic.
Beware of things repeated becoming truer than they actually were.
For example, one quote made everyone think life in the "dark" ages, and "middle" ages
(quotes intentional) was "nasty, brutish, and short", but this is gross oversimplification.
More lived to very old age than is assumed. Records of death ages were not ordinary.
Similarly, it is simplified negligence to say everyone drank ale/mead/wine all the time
as a total replacement for water and juices, milks. Today's normal beers are .04-.06% alc.
but medieval kvass was .005-.01%. Similar strengths with wine and mead made the staples
referred to as fruit of the vine barely fermented, they did not measure these with anything
but taste and time.. the documentation is less than erratic. Certainly, those with access to
clean, low-trafficked springs, dug wells and brooks away from cities need not fear the same
way city-dwellers did, and who speaks for them?
We know that when distillation became widespread, there were enormous increases in
alcoholic problems, for centuries.

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Gin, gin, gin...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Beer-street-and-Gin-lane.jpg

https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article/36/5/401/233726

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The latter stemmed from an economic ideology called ‘poverty theory’, whose basic premise was that, by keeping the ‘inferior order’ in poverty, English goods would be competitive and would remain that way since workers would be completely dependent on their employers. Widespread overcrowding and poverty led to societal unrest which manifested itself in increased drunkenness when cheap gin became available after Parliament did away with former distilling monopolies that had kept prices high. Reformers ignored the social causes of this unrest and, instead, focused on gin drinking by the poor which they feared was endangering England's wealth and security by enfeebling its labour force, and reducing its manpower by decreasing its population.

 

 

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proper quotes for a proper problem

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