2many secrets 561 Posted April 16 (edited) I'm no expert on this political stuff, just a spectator. This seems interesting and, would be a great test of our poorly secured networks. So, if you're into planning for SCADA* Systems to fail, stock up on potable water, propane for your camp stove, a full tank of gas in your car, lots of batteries for your flashlight and portable radio, etc. And, whatever you use to defend yourself. If you think it's all BS, don't worry about it. 2ms Syria attack: Will Russia launch CYBER warfare? Expert says it is IMMINENT THE attack on Syria by Western powers has fuelled fears that Russia will retaliate with a cyber attack against UK hospitals and other services including air traffic control. But will Russia launch cyber warfare against Britain? One expert believes havoc could be on the way… Kat Hopps Express.co.uk | 2018-04-15T15:23:00Z Counter-terrorism expert Michael Clarke, who specialises in defence studies, has urged the public to be ready for “cyber warfare” within the next two or three weeks. He said: ”I suspect Russia will choose not to respond in military terms. But cyber warfare is highly likely. "It will be an attack on national infrastructure, not just upsetting city firms, but getting inside the transport system, or the health system, or air traffic control. It could affect everyone." The UK, US and France launched 105 missiles at suspected chemical weapons sites in three strikes in Damascus and near Homs on Saturday. President Putin warned the US-led strike against Syria would result in “consequences” against the Allied forces, without stating what they would be. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/946362/syria-attack-russia-cyber-warfare-chemical-attack-in-syria-us *SCADA = Supervisory control and data acquisition "Infrastructure processes may be public or private, and include water treatment and distribution, wastewater collection and treatment, oil and gas pipelines, electric power transmission and distribution, and wind farms." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCADA Edited April 16 by 2many secrets 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2many secrets 561 Posted April 16 (edited) Hackers exploit SCADA holes to take full control of critical infrastructure https://www.computerworld.com/article/2475789/cybercrime-hacking/hackers-exploit-scada-holes-to-take-full-control-of-critical-infrastructure.html Water treatment plant hacked, chemical mix changed for tap supplies http:://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/24/water_utility_hacked/ Dangerous Malware Discovered that Can Take Down Electric Power Grids https://thehackernews.com/2017/06/electric-power-grid-malware.html Now that Russia has apparently hacked America’s grid, shoring up security is more important than ever Theodore J. Kury The Conversation | Hackers taking down the U.S. electricity grid may sound like a plot ripped from a Bruce Willis action movie, but the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI recently disclosed that Russia has infiltrated “critical infrastructure” like American power plants, water facilities and gas pipelines. This hacking is similar to the 2015 and 2016 attacks on Ukraine’s grid. While it hasn’t risen beyond scouting mode, the specter of sabotage in the U.S. now seems more realistic than it used to. Clearly, there’s no time to waste in shoring up the grid’s security. Yet getting that done is not easy, as I’ve learned through my research regarding efforts in to stave off outages in hurricane-prone Florida. https://theconversation.com/now-that-russia-has-apparently-hacked-americas-grid-shoring-up-security-is-more-important-than-ever-94279 Edited April 16 by 2many secrets 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadBrad 208 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, 2many secrets said: President Putin warned the US-led strike against Syria would result in “consequences” against the Allied forces, without stating what they would be. Cyber warfare is one step below a hot war. If some of the items listed by OP took place, it would target a huge number of civilians. Another thread today, starting with "More Escalation?.... had a member give a list of things Russia could do and yet not be so brutal but uncomfortable. Found on page 2: ********************** It is estimated that Russia holds close to 100 Billion dollars worth of U.S. Bonds. Russian politicians are now urging the Kremlin to immediately dump those bonds as retaliation for the sanctions against Russia! Russian Politicians are also urging the Kremlin to immediately pull out of ALL treaties with the USA until the USA drops it's sanctions against Russia! In addition to all of that, the Kremlin has signaled that they may re-open their military bases in Cuba and in Vietnam stating that Washington now needs to know what it feels like to have another superpower sitting on their border! - @londonorchar 6 hrs ago *********************** 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Evil 2,580 Posted April 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, 2many secrets said: Water treatment plant hacked, chemical mix changed for tap supplies http:://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/24/water_utility_hacked/ That'd make a good movie plot. Hackers break into the water plant and destroy the fluoridation system. Panic in the WH as the clock ticks down to the hour the sheeple will start to awaken. All the bimbos in the newsrooms get booted out as they realise the only one who can save them is Dan Rather, who despite his "issues" at least wasn't the airhead everyone else is, these days. Meanwhile frantic efforts are made to find some seance specialist capable of re-combobulating Walter Cronkite, just in case Dan has another "issue." The POTUS orders the SR-71 in the Smithsonian back into service so it can make a special flight from D.C. to Hollyweird then to NY to pick up the seance expert and get her into the studio before the deadline expires. John Travolta playing himself flies the plane, and is given a special mission to take out Oliver Stone, who's making a doco on the effects of fluoridation in the water supply. Edited April 16 by Dr. Evil 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ukshep 25,534 Posted April 16 3 hours ago, Dr. Evil said: That'd make a good movie plot. If there is one thing they love it is movie plots Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2many secrets 561 Posted April 16 3 hours ago, Dr. Evil said: That'd make a good movie plot. As plots go, movie and other, a Nuclear Chemist friend told me of one he came up with. I won't repeat it publicly, as I don't want to give anyone ideas. But, there are a lot of plots.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
londonorchar 1,093 Posted April 16 (edited) 7 hours ago, 2many secrets said: I'm no expert on this political stuff, just a spectator. This seems interesting and, would be a great test of our poorly secured networks. So, if you're into planning for SCADA* Systems to fail, stock up on potable water, propane for your camp stove, a full tank of gas in your car, lots of batteries for your flashlight and portable radio, etc. And, whatever you use to defend yourself. If you think it's all BS, don't worry about it. 2ms Syria attack: Will Russia launch CYBER warfare? Expert says it is IMMINENT THE attack on Syria by Western powers has fuelled fears that Russia will retaliate with a cyber attack against UK hospitals and other services including air traffic control. But will Russia launch cyber warfare against Britain? One expert believes havoc could be on the way… Kat Hopps Express.co.uk | 2018-04-15T15:23:00Z Counter-terrorism expert Michael Clarke, who specialises in defence studies, has urged the public to be ready for “cyber warfare” within the next two or three weeks. He said: ”I suspect Russia will choose not to respond in military terms. But cyber warfare is highly likely. "It will be an attack on national infrastructure, not just upsetting city firms, but getting inside the transport system, or the health system, or air traffic control. It could affect everyone." The UK, US and France launched 105 missiles at suspected chemical weapons sites in three strikes in Damascus and near Homs on Saturday. President Putin warned the US-led strike against Syria would result in “consequences” against the Allied forces, without stating what they would be. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/946362/syria-attack-russia-cyber-warfare-chemical-attack-in-syria-us *SCADA = Supervisory control and data acquisition "Infrastructure processes may be public or private, and include water treatment and distribution, wastewater collection and treatment, oil and gas pipelines, electric power transmission and distribution, and wind farms." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCADA If it happens it won't be on the orders of Putin! Putin will not strike civilian targets like that! Putin knows that the average American doesn't like what is going on with the U.S. Govt. You don't create hatred where there is none and Putin knows if he was ever linked to that, Americans would turn on a dime! Edited April 16 by londonorchar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhetoricalRebel 2,375 Posted April 16 Got gas for the generator. Feel an outage coming on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
londonorchar 1,093 Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, RhetoricalRebel said: Got gas for the generator. Feel an outage coming on. Gas will run out sooner or later, best to save it for later! If power goes out, try getting by without back up power alternatives (i.e., generator, etc., unless your solar equipped). People survived without power with no problem just a few decades ago, (1930's and before)! Americans (the new generation) have become soft and weak. Time to start toughening up I say! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2many secrets 561 Posted April 16 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RhetoricalRebel said: Got gas for the generator. Feel an outage coming on. I hope it's a quiet one, like the small Hondas, or your neighbors will be knocking on your door, if you live near enough for them to hear it. Having researched "specialized" generators for powering electronic instrumentation, this is the best, cheap one, I found. "Inverter - stable power for sensitive equipment & electronics" https://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eb2200i I don't work for Honda or own any stock in Honda. Edited April 16 by 2many secrets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheToolman 1,595 Posted April 16 I have to fly on Wednesday, so I hope they do it today or tomorrow if they do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Centaur 161 Posted April 16 Russia potentially could do this. On the other hand of course, the USA could hack the same facilities in Russia. Go figure huh? Will the USA hack those Russian utilities? Should Russia be prepared for this type of act of war? It seems that since we bombed Syria illegally and called out Putin, we are the ones that must be worried about such attacks. There seems to be an air of guilt about this whole charade. Russia and China are very slowly but confidently, bringing down the U.S economy. The sanctions imposed on Russia are going to reciprocated painfully. The trade sanctions on China likewise will be responded to. Anyone thought where all that garbage is now going to go since China said "Nope. No more of your shit thanks". I agree we should sensibly prepare as individuals for what is obviously coming our way, because it most certainly is coming. Batteries. Fuel, water and storable food are all sensible precautions, but we must never be in any doubt as to who is responsible for this mess and it isn't a country 5000 miles away. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites