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Trump: We'll Be Talking About Gun Laws As Time Goes By

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4 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

I know it can be overridden, but if he signs it rather than a veto, that tells it all on him. Even if the veto is in vain, it still shows an act of protest and I would put CONgress through the override process just to show the people where I really stood as a president. 

I assume you meant, "that putts it all on him".  A President in such a case only has the power of Protest at that point.  In my view (and yea, I am very much in the minority position) it all is on Congress, its all on them, not him.  All of it.  Congress is the one that would have passed it, and then Congress later over-ruled his veto.  In my view its all on Congress's head, not the President. 

Yeah, "Congress", a herd of Baboons.  Yet the Power is in the hands of those Baboons because We The People empowered those Baboons to make our Laws, I mean the State Governments of the United States of America so empowered.

A President does have the power over the Executive (under Congress) and can mediate a few things by executive orders, but that power is limited, "... to faithfully uphold the will of Congress".. the Baboons.

T.Y. for your insightful comments... am still chewing on that longer post a few posts back now.

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2 minutes ago, askakido said:

I assume you meant, "that putts it all on him".  A President in such a case only has the power of Protest at that point.  In my view (and yea, I am very much in the minority position) it all is on Congress, its all on them, not him.  All of it.  Congress is the one that would have passed it, and then Congress later over-ruled his veto.  In my view its all on Congress's head, not the President. 

Yeah, "Congress", a herd of Baboons.  Yet the Power is in the hands of those Baboons because We The People empowered those Baboons to make our Laws, I mean the State Governments of the United States of America so empowered.

A President does have the power over the Executive (under Congress) and can mediate a few things by executive orders, but that power is limited, "... to faithfully uphold the will of Congress".. the Baboons.

T.Y. for your insightful comments... am still chewing on that longer post a few posts back now.

I think what it boils down to is we already know congress is a bunch of con artists and I really think few are elected by the people, I think they are selected by machines and are easily hacked into. Voter fraud is also rampant. While the U.S. sends people to other countries to monitor their elections, ours are corrupted here. 

The president can veto what is bad for the people. Even if it is only symbolic. I have not seen any vetos from Trump as yet. And once vetoed there's a chance of changing minds and not getting enough votes to override it when it comes up again. 

If a gun control bill comes up and he signs it, at least we know what he is all about and that is not what he sold on the campaign trail. 

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15 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

They all suck that's why. They're like a criminal enterprise that makes decisions based on what they can get out of the deal.  I think there used to be rules where the more people there are, the more representatives we were supposed to have, but a law/rule was somehow made where it limits them to the numbers there are now. I read about that a long time ago. It's a lot harder to corrupt a large number of people than a small number and considering the number of people in the U.S. right now, there's no way this 535 can represent us properly especially when rather than going into office with the mindset of "public servant" they go in with the mind set of "law maker". ugh 

EDIT: The amount of money it costs to get elected guarantees we will get no common people with common interests as reps, we get millionaires who have no fn clue as to what it's like to try to survive their laws. 

So insightful in that whole post.  Well said. 

The current "limit" has been set to 650,000 people (man, woman, and child) per U.S. House Representative.  And yet, in the last election in my District, the 3rd District of the State of Nebraska, there was only one Party on the ballot for the 3d District, and he was unopposed; this seems an abdication by these 650,000 people.  I.e., seemingly it cost him relatively little to win that election.

But... like in Nebraska, around 1.8 Million people now (last U.S. Census)... so currently 3 U.S. House Reps.. but if the population in this State were to grow to 1.96 Million, e.g., there would then be 4 U.S. House Reps for Nebraska.

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7 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

I think what it boils down to is we already know congress is a bunch of con artists and I really think few are elected by the people, I think they are selected by machines and are easily hacked into. Voter fraud is also rampant. While the U.S. sends people to other countries to monitor their elections, ours are corrupted here. 

The president can veto what is bad for the people. Even if it is only symbolic. I have not seen any vetos from Trump as yet. And once vetoed there's a chance of changing minds and not getting enough votes to override it when it comes up again. 

If a gun control bill comes up and he signs it, at least we know what he is all about and that is not what he sold on the campaign trail. 

1.) U.S Senator Exon, from the State of Nebraska, was one of the early advocates of Electronic Voting machines... the company he sort of worked along with was E.S.S... and was/is a Optical Election/Voting counting system.   Even though back to Plato's time there major issues with elections and voters and vote counts. Without an Honest People and Honest Officers, a moral people, it stays corrupt and only waxing and waning within a certain relativity of corruption.

2.) Yea, not a single Veto yet from Trump. Has he even threatened Congress with a veto yet?

3.) As to any Gun Control Bill coming up.. realize that Congress could in fact in the 'next' Gun Control Bill be taking out all but the barest parts of control, such as banning the gun rights of those that are not of the "Age of Reason" or so deeply "retarded" as to have an I.Q, of 45, like a three and half year olds understanding of the world at large.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Cinnamon said:

If a gun control bill comes up and he signs it, at least we know what he is all about and that is not what he sold on the campaign trail. 

I strongly believe trump will avoid direct contact with anything like that. I feel like this is the purpose of the left along with a few other things to push. If trump does anything on gun control, His base will evacuate and this whole game of theirs relies heavily on keeping his base appeased.

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