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Franklin, Ohio to Reinstall the Removed Confederate Monument After Backlash

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 abigfatzero    2,171

Franklin, Ohio to Reinstall the Removed Confederate Monument After Backlash

Residents in the small town of Franklin, Ohio in Warren County respect America, tradition, and culture.

A huge part of America's tradition and culture is based upon its history, and although Ohio was a Union State in the Civil War many relatives of Ohioans fought for the Confederacy, a common occurrence of those in the Midwest.

That's why when the Robert E. Lee monument was torn down back in mid August, locals were absolutely furious with the city who committed the atrocious acts in the cover of darkness.

Officials from the City Council ordered the memorial to Robert E. Lee, the brave Confederate General who served during the Civil War, in the middle of the night.

Millions of Americans on both sides lost their ancestors in America's bloodiest battles, right on our own soil.

Ohio, as all states of the Union agreed to honor all Veterans of both the Confederacy and the Union troops equally as American Veterans after the war.

http://thegoldwater.com/news/8867-Franklin-Ohio-to-Reinstall-the-Removed-Confederate-Monument-After-Backlash

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 Mehitable    1,328

People have to understand that many of those who fought in the Civil War - in fact, MOST of those fighting for the South - were not fighting "for" slavery.  They were fighting for the independence of their STATE so that the people within could make their own choices about government, laws, institutions, and economics.  If we believe in things like independence for the people of Catalonia, which I do, then we should also believe in independence for people in states in the US.  Whether during the Civil War or even today, if, for example, California got a large enough majority for secession.  If you have to be forced to stay within a political institution, how can we claim to have freedom and democracy?  And THAT is what these "rebels" were fighting for.

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 apache54    4,188
1 hour ago, Automan63 said:

If Ohioans really want to make a difference, they’ll band together as a town and hold a recall election and send these bums, these haters of their own heritage and history, these panderers to the cause of the moment, picking without a change of underwear. Out they go, all of them.

Happened in my town, two years ago. I was one of five heavily involved in the recall effort. We had a shady election, that went through TWO full recounts and between the election itself and the recounts produced three different results. The “newly elected” got themselves sworn in and their first act was to pick the recount that served them and bring accountability to a halt. Their next act was to fire the town manager. It went on and on from there. Took almost a year and they were all gone, in a landslide recall. Their boy that they installed as “Acting town manager” was recently convicted of public corruption and misappropriation of public funds And Is doing three years.

Americans get the form of government they’re willing to accept.

SPOT ON!!!

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 Cinnamon    20,036
1 hour ago, Quiet Storm said:

Will they put the monument back up in the dark of night like they took it down?

 

:gsbrnint:  If ANTIFA and BLM is there they probably will. 

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 God Man    384
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Some additional information on the former nation prior to the invasion by the United States of America: 

The Confederate States of America created their own constitution which was similar to the United States Constitution, but with greater stress on the autonomy of each state. 

The confederate Congress specified that black soldiers were to receive the same pay as the white soldiers. The Union army’s black soldiers were paid less than the white soldiers. A black soldier in the Union army would have been paid $10 a month with a $3 clothing fee taken out, leaving the soldier with $7 a month. White soldiers were paid $13 a month and were not forced to pay a clothing allowance, which is almost twice as much as the black soldiers. By contrast the Confederate army paid their privates of both races $11/month until 1864

In 1864, the Confederate States began to abandon slavery. There are some indications that even without a war, the Confederacy would have ended slavery.

highest ranking generals, Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston were not slave holders and did not believe in slavery. And according to an 1860 census, only 31% of families owned slaves. 75% of families that owned slaves owned less than 10 and often worked beside them in the fields. The Confederate Constitution banned the overseas slave trade, and permitted Confederate states to abolish slavery within their borders if they wanted to do so. Slavery wasn’t abolished until 1868, 3 years after the war. Thus Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland and Delaware still had slaves.

Some Confederate dollar bills had pictures of African Americans.

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 Tarmalen    1,177
1 hour ago, God Man said:

Some additional information on the former nation prior to the invasion by the United States of America: 

The Confederate States of America created their own constitution which was similar to the United States Constitution, but with greater stress on the autonomy of each state. 

The confederate Congress specified that black soldiers were to receive the same pay as the white soldiers. The Union army’s black soldiers were paid less than the white soldiers. A black soldier in the Union army would have been paid $10 a month with a $3 clothing fee taken out, leaving the soldier with $7 a month. White soldiers were paid $13 a month and were not forced to pay a clothing allowance, which is almost twice as much as the black soldiers. By contrast the Confederate army paid their privates of both races $11/month until 1864

In 1864, the Confederate States began to abandon slavery. There are some indications that even without a war, the Confederacy would have ended slavery.

highest ranking generals, Robert E. Lee and Joseph E. Johnston were not slave holders and did not believe in slavery. And according to an 1860 census, only 31% of families owned slaves. 75% of families that owned slaves owned less than 10 and often worked beside them in the fields. The Confederate Constitution banned the overseas slave trade, and permitted Confederate states to abolish slavery within their borders if they wanted to do so. Slavery wasn’t abolished until 1868, 3 years after the war. Thus Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland and Delaware still had slaves.

Some Confederate dollar bills had pictures of African Americans.

History that was not taught.

 

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