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War - Trump & Behind the Scenes Manouvering

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 Ranulf    66

ok.

This is my theory based on all of the "facts" that I've been able to gleam from a variety of source over the past few years.

Fact 1 - the elite know the west is going to collapse principally because they created the situation

Fact 2 -  the elite have picked China as their new world power  base, see Soros's involvement in China and numerous other members of the elite, pronouncements about China the future etc....

Fact 3 - the elite want an unchallenged position which means no other countries able to challenge China

Fact 4 - as the elite want a controlled China leading this means that both USA and the only other challenger, Russia needs to be destroyed

 

The Elites plan -

Most of us know the plan, or have guessed at parts of the plan, USA takes on Russia, fight each other to exhaustion, China comes in and whacks the USA a knock out blow.

What most people don't realise is the China vs Russia aspect (historical emnity and have clashed before).

A Russia that's not also obliterated leaves a Russia that's a challenge to the elite.

China will attack from their northern and eastern borders and rip a Russia already weakened from fighting on their western border (against NATO) in their south and east.

 

Trump's Desperate Blocking Tactics -

Trump knows the overall plan, he also knows that the deep state are so entrenched, not just in the USA but Western Europe as well that his chances of stopping the deep states are poor.

So, what I believe he's doing is strategic akido.

The deep state are pushing for war, he can't stop that and he's clever enough to realise that, so instead he's redirecting the target from Russia to China and Chinese interests.

Look at the new Russia sanctions.

Trump, unable to veto the sanctions when supported so overwhelmingly, instead jumped onto Twitter letting all and sundry know the truth.

Russia knows the score, they reacted with talk, bluster, a little bit of action, but nothing more, when really they should have reacted to what was essentially an attempt to kick off hostilities.

Let's swap theatres, India and Asia

Trump visits India, USA pushes for closer ties with India, India has long been Russia's friend so really shouldn't be that ameniable to the USA, then all of sudden India has a border incident which China and doesn't seem to be backing down.

At the same time Trump ups the ante with North Korea.

And to top it off Trumps orders a destroyer this week to sail right past one of the contested islands.

Now, China has to respond to India, so it has to have some focus there, but probably only expects a border skirmish, still it can't take it's eye off the situation in case India then gets the upper hand which would be catastrophic for a China looking to establish world pre-eminence.

Additionally China can't have any USA presence in North Korea because then the USA would be on their border, which by extension means no South Korean presence in North Korea because as we know South Korea is a USA satellite, which means that if it looks like North Korea will fall then China will need to rush in and secure as much of North Korea as possible to keep the buffer.

You can see China is thinking this way because there have been plenty of reports of China moving troops to the North Korean border, officially to respond to any flood of refugees, something which plainly isn't true because the Chinese border police know what they're doing, are numurous and the border is a river.

Of course China rushing in to stabilise the buffer creates the posibility of clashes with USA or South Korean forces.

And then of course you have the fake islands flash point, where each time the USA send something they could afford to lose, a destroyer, a C130 etc.... on a sail/fly by.

The difference here is that whilst it's the legislators in the USA pushing for trouble with Russia it's Trump that's pushing for trouble, directly or indirectly, with China.

 

So What Happens Next

Trump needs to ensure that China is not the power base that the elite want it to be, to do this China needs to be compromised or derailed in such a way that the elite have to rethink their planned destruction of the USA.

Trump also knows that Russia isn't a friend of the USA, but has on his side the knowledge that the Russians probably guess they are meant to be sacrificed and probably aren't too keen about the plan.

This means Russia isn't going to respond to deep state provocation directly and where they do get involved, Syria and Ukraine for instance, will do so in such a way that they don't get dragged into something larger, this means that Russia isn't going to be in the state of exhaustion that the plan needs for them to fall victim to China.

Therefore there will be no action in Europe, certainly nothing large scale, as both USA and Russia are seeking to avoid that.

There will be no action in the Middle East, other than where Israel or Saudi Arabia have got involved, again because Russia and USA are seeking to avoid getting dragged into a major confrontation.

India-China will have a border war, probably not a big one because India is playing a role which is keeping China occupied, plus India needs to keep one eye on Pakistan who China have lately approached.

North Korea will be attacked, the demilitarized zone will be taken with some resistance but probably less than expected due to devastating air superiority by USA and SK.

China in response will sweep south which in doing so moves them out of the cover of the static missile and radar shield that China has put in place along various parts of their border/coastline.

China will get bogged down in North Korea.

USA will bypass the fake islands in the same way that the Germans bypassed the French Maginot Line and instead attach the Chinese mainland directly focussing on denial weapons rather than hugely destructive ones, electrical grid, dams, infrastructure all hit.

Typically when populations are bombed the bombing serves as a rallying cry, but there's little evidence that this is the case with destroyed infrastructure and few casualties, and this is especially likely to be the case in a country where the people are already restless.

 

China's Response

Will China hit the USA, yes of course, they have both land and sea based missiles that could whack the USA, but they will be limited in their response because they need to keep something back for the Russians, something back for the Indians, something for Japan, something for Taiwan, but mostly because the USA is using denial weapons rather than nuclear and China will seek to avoid a nuclear exchange whilst they feel the situation is reperable.

So, USA will suffer damage, maybe lose a base or city to a nuke, but nothing more.

China itself will suffer damage, and possibly regime change due to popular uprising (non-CIA version) but most importantly China as the pre-eminent global power will have been put back a decade which will effectively end the current globalist/deep state/elite plan (though they no doubt have plans B-Z on hold).

 

 

 

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 BunBun    450

You have interesting thoughts. I really appreciate the time you took to tell us. I think you are right about some of this stuff. I don't know any particulars, but they have definitely moved the manufacturing base to China and have it set up to be the New World Super Power, which would be horrific. 

Biblically speaking, there is a lot of thought that says the Russia and China are going to invade Israel. Bunbun doesn't know if that's true or any timetables, but it's hinted at. While they are there across the Eurphrates on their way to Israel, God destroys their home countries with natural-supernatural disasters. 

I don't know if that is what is eventually going to happen, but it's in the Bible in the Gog and Magog section. 

I don't think Russia wants to fight us. China hates our guts and wants to take power from us and sink us. There is no doubt about that. They are no friend of ours or anybody else. 

Who knows what is going to happen.

Bunbun has lost heart.

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 Zing    902
57 minutes ago, Ranulf said:

ok.

This is my theory based on all of the "facts" that I've been able to gleam from a variety of source over the past few years.

Fact 1 - the elite know the west is going to collapse principally because they created the situation

Fact 2 -  the elite have picked China as their new world power  base, see Soros's involvement in China and numerous other members of the elite, pronouncements about China the future etc....

Fact 3 - the elite want an unchallenged position which means no other countries able to challenge China

Fact 4 - as the elite want a controlled China leading this means that both USA and the only other challenger, Russia needs to be destroyed

 

The Elites plan -

Most of us know the plan, or have guessed at parts of the plan, USA takes on Russia, fight each other to exhaustion, China comes in and whacks the USA a knock out blow.

What most people don't realise is the China vs Russia aspect (historical emnity and have clashed before).

A Russia that's not also obliterated leaves a Russia that's a challenge to the elite.

China will attack from their northern and eastern borders and rip a Russia already weakened from fighting on their western border (against NATO) in their south and east.

 

Trump's Desperate Blocking Tactics -

Trump knows the overall plan, he also knows that the deep state are so entrenched, not just in the USA but Western Europe as well that his chances of stopping the deep states are poor.

So, what I believe he's doing is strategic akido.

The deep state are pushing for war, he can't stop that and he's clever enough to realise that, so instead he's redirecting the target from Russia to China and Chinese interests.

Look at the new Russia sanctions.

Trump, unable to veto the sanctions when supported so overwhelmingly, instead jumped onto Twitter letting all and sundry know the truth.

Russia knows the score, they reacted with talk, bluster, a little bit of action, but nothing more, when really they should have reacted to what was essentially an attempt to kick off hostilities.

Let's swap theatres, India and Asia

Trump visits India, USA pushes for closer ties with India, India has long been Russia's friend so really shouldn't be that ameniable to the USA, then all of sudden India has a border incident which China and doesn't seem to be backing down.

At the same time Trump ups the ante with North Korea.

And to top it off Trumps orders a destroyer this week to sail right past one of the contested islands.

Now, China has to respond to India, so it has to have some focus there, but probably only expects a border skirmish, still it can't take it's eye off the situation in case India then gets the upper hand which would be catastrophic for a China looking to establish world pre-eminence.

Additionally China can't have any USA presence in North Korea because then the USA would be on their border, which by extension means no South Korean presence in North Korea because as we know South Korea is a USA satellite, which means that if it looks like North Korea will fall then China will need to rush in and secure as much of North Korea as possible to keep the buffer.

You can see China is thinking this way because there have been plenty of reports of China moving troops to the North Korean border, officially to respond to any flood of refugees, something which plainly isn't true because the Chinese border police know what they're doing, are numurous and the border is a river.

Of course China rushing in to stabilise the buffer creates the posibility of clashes with USA or South Korean forces.

And then of course you have the fake islands flash point, where each time the USA send something they could afford to lose, a destroyer, a C130 etc.... on a sail/fly by.

The difference here is that whilst it's the legislators in the USA pushing for trouble with Russia it's Trump that's pushing for trouble, directly or indirectly, with China.

 

So What Happens Next

Trump needs to ensure that China is not the power base that the elite want it to be, to do this China needs to be compromised or derailed in such a way that the elite have to rethink their planned destruction of the USA.

Trump also knows that Russia isn't a friend of the USA, but has on his side the knowledge that the Russians probably guess they are meant to be sacrificed and probably aren't too keen about the plan.

This means Russia isn't going to respond to deep state provocation directly and where they do get involved, Syria and Ukraine for instance, will do so in such a way that they don't get dragged into something larger, this means that Russia isn't going to be in the state of exhaustion that the plan needs for them to fall victim to China.

Therefore there will be no action in Europe, certainly nothing large scale, as both USA and Russia are seeking to avoid that.

There will be no action in the Middle East, other than where Israel or Saudi Arabia have got involved, again because Russia and USA are seeking to avoid getting dragged into a major confrontation.

India-China will have a border war, probably not a big one because India is playing a role which is keeping China occupied, plus India needs to keep one eye on Pakistan who China have lately approached.

North Korea will be attacked, the demilitarized zone will be taken with some resistance but probably less than expected due to devastating air superiority by USA and SK.

China in response will sweep south which in doing so moves them out of the cover of the static missile and radar shield that China has put in place along various parts of their border/coastline.

China will get bogged down in North Korea.

USA will bypass the fake islands in the same way that the Germans bypassed the French Maginot Line and instead attach the Chinese mainland directly focussing on denial weapons rather than hugely destructive ones, electrical grid, dams, infrastructure all hit.

Typically when populations are bombed the bombing serves as a rallying cry, but there's little evidence that this is the case with destroyed infrastructure and few casualties, and this is especially likely to be the case in a country where the people are already restless.

 

China's Response

Will China hit the USA, yes of course, they have both land and sea based missiles that could whack the USA, but they will be limited in their response because they need to keep something back for the Russians, something back for the Indians, something for Japan, something for Taiwan, but mostly because the USA is using denial weapons rather than nuclear and China will seek to avoid a nuclear exchange whilst they feel the situation is reperable.

So, USA will suffer damage, maybe lose a base or city to a nuke, but nothing more.

China itself will suffer damage, and possibly regime change due to popular uprising (non-CIA version) but most importantly China as the pre-eminent global power will have been put back a decade which will effectively end the current globalist/deep state/elite plan (though they no doubt have plans B-Z on hold).

 

 

 

Sounds  to me like you are onto their plan.  It may not go as the elites planned because they may not get what they want. 

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 apache54    4,867

You have laid out a very good possibility,

I see some other scenarios because there are several countries who wish to own America and IF it is a waste land of nuke fallout, then it becomes useless to them, yes they want to destroy us, but maybe not by ruining the very land they need and want! something is about to happen and we will how it plays out, remember China has allot invested in this country and we are NOT threatening them at this point!

Russia, also wants this country and would not like it to be nuke and useless dirt!

The NWO  is calling the shots and IF we can guess there overall plan then we will know whom is going to get it!!

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 C.O.W.    204

Nice theory!
 I too, have had similar thoughts and have followed the MSM, IC and contacts only to come to the conclusion:  "when we are confident we have the end game, based on available facts, the truth still shocks us when it's not what they projected to us..."

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 Dr. Evil    1,651

Good topic, thank you for raising it and laying out your thoughts in such detail.

3 hours ago, apache54 said:

there are several countries who wish to own America and IF it is a waste land of nuke fallout, then it becomes useless to the

On the nuclear front my feeling is they will use neutron bombs with fallout designed to quickly dissipate. As you say it is pointless to occupy a wasteland either a radioactive one or one where all major infrastructure has been reduced to rubble. 

4 hours ago, Ranulf said:

Fact 1 - the elite know the west is going to collapse principally because they created the situation

Fact 2 -  the elite have picked China as their new world power  base, see Soros's involvement in China and numerous other members of the elite, pronouncements about China the future etc....

Fact 3 - the elite want an unchallenged position which means no other countries able to challenge China

Fact 4 - as the elite want a controlled China leading this means that both USA and the only other challenger, Russia needs to be destroyed

I agree with 1 & 2 but not so much 3 & 4. I also think we need to consider the Middle East, at least for so long as they plan on suppressing the free energy technology, after which it will become, like Africa, geopolitically (but not economically) irrelevant. But while we operate an oil-based economic and technology platform, control over that region is critical to geopolitical calculations.

On Facts 1 & 2, the Khazarian Mafia indeed has extensive holdings there, and they have a lot of technology and techniques for managing and manipulating populations that the Chinese political puppets would find very useful. However you also have very powerful secret societies over there who AFAIK are resisting the Khazarian Mafia faction. So my current read is that control of that nation is currently under negotiation.

On 3 & 4, there is a very synergistic relationship between Russia and China on a number of levels. This is worth reading on that:

http://thesaker.is/vineyard-of-the-saker-white-paper-the-china-russia-double-helix/

I very much doubt we will see a Sino-Russian split, instead I think we will see increasing cooperation between them at all levels. The West's behaviour for the last few decades has only served to drive them closer together, which is not altogether surprising given the idiot neocons have been driving US foreign policy over that entire time. They can never get anything right.

A wild card here is that there is significant synergy between a German-Russian alliance and that combined with Russia-China would be so powerful it would immediately make the West the junior player in every single area. Preventing a German-Russian alliance is the reason why Great Britain started WWI and WWII, it's that significant. 

But now, the US is apparently doing all it can, inadvertantly, to virtually drive Germany into Russian arms. What a mess. But there we are, that's what's happening.

Regardless of whether or not we have a war, what I think we'll have in fifty years is a world where the financial centres have shifted from NY and London to Shanghai and Moscow and the Chinese are in the global position the US was in the 50's, after it had won the war and proceeded to dominate the world in every area for the next fifty years. 

The question is: how are we going to get from where we are now, to there. Violently or peacefully? That to me all depends on the US. 

In the event of a war between China-Russia vs the West, the West will definitely lose. Not only can China-Russia match it in weapon quality it can out-match it in both weapon and troop numbers, and critically, in generalship. The US military can only win when it throws massive firepower against a weak enemy, it cannot use that tactic against China-Russia because that is not a weak enemy. And the US Generals know no other tactic than that. But the Russian generals do. In addition, the US military-security complex is bloated, inefficient and riddled with corruption and incompetence. Just look at the F-35. OTOH, the only thing apparently the elites envy about Russia is their military-security complex, because it beats the West's in every area.

So, given the Khazarian Mafia elites are based in London, Rome and Washington and that includes the Khazarians, Opus Dei and the Black Nobility, all of whom will be on the losing side of any global war, what is their calculation here? Are they planning on a Hail Mary play? Take out the Chinks with biologicals, use their space platforms to defeat the Russian anti-missile counter measures and nuke both China and Russia? Maybe. But Russia has space platforms too. Russia also has shelters for all its citizens. They do regular drills. They've been preparing for this for decades. Unlike the West. Apparently, we in the West are just the fodder. Apparently, our job is just to die.

Given the alien involvement in all of this and the apparent desire on some of them to help us as a species to evolve and eventually spread out into the Universe, perhaps the white hats there will step in before we destroy ourselves. Because that's our real answer. Forget our internal differences, get rid of all the elites, confiscate their wealth and spread it around, release the suppressed technology, kick off the black hat alien b'stards and take back our planet. Then those of us who have bothered to educate ourselves on how the world really works can go on the lecture circuit and spend the rest of our days explaining to the sheeple how profoundly stupid they've all been and this is why. I can't wait for that bit.

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