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Ukshep

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 Ukshep    14,238
Just now, John Connor said:

so you think capitalism is the problem?

Subverted Capitalism.. yes. Nothing is ever clear cut any more.... It is more a message about the hidden layer underneath our daily activities!

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 Rob    134

If you don't like capitalism then don't buy anything. No one's forcing you to buy a Pepsi.

 

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 Guitar Doc    1,208

The most ruthless people in business get to the top. They don't get their by paying their staff a reasonable share of the profits. They pay their staff the least amount they can possibly get away with. This is capitalism in action. Those with capital can take advantage over those who do not have capital but want to obtain it. See how you can obtain power over your fellow man with nothing more than large amounts of capital?

 

Socialism was invented by Wall Street economists. They funded the Russian revolution and the Chinese revolution along wit the Nazis.

In their model of socialism the entire country is converted to One Corporation. It then experiences Morganization, or economic streamlining. People are paid subsistence, but their labors go to the ruling cadre. They pay their people as little as possible while extracting maximum profits from their labors. See it is capitalism, extreme capitalism. People are labor Units, and unfit labor units are disposed of. Women have to work as well because they are potentially a source of economic activity and they have to earn more than what their upkeep is to be economically profitable. Socialism makes workers poor but the rulers rich. Socialism is what the corporations want to do to the world, because it will make them the power.

 

Consume, Obey, Love your job.

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 John Connor    239

Hmm Well glad to see your not a socialist, but I dont see how you can say they are the same. If we are talking about the ideology itself, not the end result due to corruption. (and all this ignores the possiblity that everything is controlled by bloodlines period)

Pure capitalism doesnt provide benefits to those on top, they have to make laws to gain that power. Laws that allow them to manipulate the stock/options markets come to mind. Banks being given the power to self regulate etc. This is not  a result of capitalism, its a result of poor education and peoples apathy towards anything government related. We have let them make as many changes as they wanted.

And we have seen similiar thing happen to every form of governance, however just look at the results. I mean Capitalism has put a US base in nearly every country/zone in the world not to mention the most grand empire ever imagined. Not that all that is good, I think we are still in need of a government that works. One without politicians would be a good start imo. Take the people out of the govenment, and you take away the ability to F* it up.  What if we just had the constituion and no way to change it? No new laws, unless everyone has a chance to read and vote online? Community justice. Dunno, but everything we try fails.. THats clear. Maybe because TPTB bloodlines and those that are really controlling things, are making sure that we fail.

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 Guitar Doc    1,208
5 minutes ago, John Connor said:

Hmm Well glad to see your not a socialist, but I dont see how you can say they are the same. If we are talking about the ideology itself, not the end result due to corruption. (and all this ignores the possiblity that everything is controlled by bloodlines period)

Pure capitalism doesnt provide benefits to those on top, they have to make laws to gain that power. Laws that allow them to manipulate the stock/options markets come to mind. Banks being given the power to self regulate etc. This is not  a result of capitalism, its a result of poor education and peoples apathy towards anything government related. We have let them make as many changes as they wanted.

And we have seen similiar thing happen to every form of governance, however just look at the results. I mean Capitalism has put a US base in nearly every country/zone in the world not to mention the most grand empire ever imagined. Not that all that is good, I think we are still in need of a government that works. One without politicians would be a good start imo. Take the people out of the govenment, and you take away the ability to F* it up.  What if we just had the constituion and no way to change it? No new laws, unless everyone has a chance to read and vote online? Community justice. Dunno, but everything we try fails.. THats clear. Maybe because TPTB bloodlines and those that are really controlling things, are making sure that we fail.

Socialism is a economic system not an ethical one or a philosophy. That is how they trick people into accepting it. It is all about misdirection. But it was invented by Wall Street Economists. Wall Street Banks funded the bolshevik revolution. They experimented on a whole nation. They funded the Chinese Revolution. They funded the Nazi's. All of those nations implemented socialism and became big  manufacturing nations. Socialism is what would happen if Corporations took over from government. It happened in the USSR, Soviet China and Nazi Germany. Those governments treated their nation and it's people as if they were all part of one corporation all dedicated to the improvement of that corporation they were told was a country, one they should love because it provided for them.

The Nazi's were socialists, it was good for production. IBM created the system for them, Henry Ford set up their factories, Wall Street banks financed it. It took many allied nations combined to finally out produce them. The Uber capitalists invented socialism as an economic system based off JP Morgan's economic streamlining, which he had invented before 1890. Socialism has a captive workforce who are maintained for the cheapest amount of money possible. If you can afford to pay them a living wage as well they embrace it, like the Germans did.

The people who tell us Capitalism is so good own the newspapers who say it.

In any group or power structure sociopaths will rise to the top.T hey are more ruthless than anyone else and have no morals. In your office it will be the nicest person in the office because that is how good they are at concealing what they are. Until they get to the top, then they convert to Dictators because they are power seekers seeking to stop anyone else from having any power over them.

This is the reality of who our industrial leaders are, who are politicians are. The people hungry enough for power will do what ever it takes to get it.

 

I like capitalism, slightly regulated. But we don't have it in the west, we have price fixing cartels. In Asia they have capitalism, it makes their cost of living extremely cheap because of the intense competition for customers. They are afraid to increase prices for fear a competitor will uncut their prices and take away all their customers. In the west when one retailer increases their price so do their competitors, sign of a cartel price fixing which is what these business leaders have been doing for 100 years. With genuine capitalism the cost of living is very low because of competition. Not so in our societies, because there is a business cartel who extends to all large businesses in the western world. That is the summery of everything we have learned from the information we have examined from Conspiracy theories and cover-ups extending back 100 years. Some incredibly rich business people decided to take over the western world and didn't want the people to know it. They hand groom politicians from a young age so they are all owned by someone. Where do politicians get their funding, it is always from rich business people.

 

This is the reality of the world we live in.

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 John Connor    239
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35 minutes ago, Guitar Doc said:

I like capitalism, slightly regulated. But we don't have it in the west, we have price fixing cartels. In Asia they have capitalism, it makes their cost of living extremely cheap because of the intense competition for customers. They are afraid to increase prices for fear a competitor will uncut their prices and take away all their customers. In the west when one retailer increases their price so do their competitors, sign of a cartel price fixing which is what these business leaders have been doing for 100 years. With genuine capitalism the cost of living is very low because of competition. Not so in our societies, because there is a business cartel who extends to all large businesses in the western world. That is the summery of everything we have learned from the information we have examined from Conspiracy theories and cover-ups extending back 100 years. Some incredibly rich business people decided to take over the western world and didn't want the people to know it. They hand groom politicians from a young age so they are all owned by someone. Where do politicians get their funding, it is always from rich business people.

 

This is the reality of the world we live in.

I think it is a mute point to even bring up cartels and price fixing. Its corruption, not the definition of Capitalism. If those "capitalist" were following the rules, we would have a completely different situation. This argument can also be used to support Socialism also, the only difference is HOW FAST corruption sets in. Socialism is has historically been literally the fastest way to bankrupt a country. Venezuela comes to mind if you want a current situation.

Ooo and what you have to say about Sociopaths is spot on. Its the one thing most people cant understand. If you are an empath, you most likely think everyone is like you and has "feelings" and doesnt have to fake their emotions. I think only 20% of us are empaths. The rest are Socio, Pshycho, Apaths.. This REALLY put things into perspective for me. And when you start to study the bloodtypes of SOciopaths, it gets even more "illuminating" ..

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 RhetoricalRebel    1,043
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3 hours ago, John Connor said:

so you think capitalism is the problem?

 

A colluding globalist oligarchy, that vote themselves 100 million dollar annual compensations, is NOT true competing capitalism.

That unfortunately,  is what we have today.

Even with competing capitalism, greed is not self regulating.

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