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Toronto: It wasn't a drone but what was it? Evasive action caused minor injuries of flight attendants.

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Federal transportation investigators say they are unable to identify an airborne object that caused a Toronto-bound plane to take evasive manoeuvres that left two flight attendants with minor injuries.

A Porter Airlines flight en route from Ottawa to Toronto on Nov. 14 narrowly avoided a mid-flight collision above Lake Ontario with what flight crew said may have been a drone.

The Transportation Safety Board says it has now closed its investigation into the incident, saying that the object doesn’t appear to have been a drone.

“The description and size of the object does not match any known commercial or consumer available unmanned aerial vehicle,” TSB spokeswoman Karine Eyamie said Wednesday. “The incident will remain identified as a near collision with an unidentified airborne object.”

The TSB noted that the incident occurred too far from shore and too high for the object to be a drone.

The Dash 8 Porter aircraft with 54 passengers was flying at just under 3,000 metres over Lake Ontario at 7:30 a.m. and was about 55 kilometres from Toronto’s island airport when the near miss occurred.

The TSB said it will not file a full, public report on the incident. It will, however, add a summary of the facts of the case to its database for statistical internal analysis.

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http://www.citynews.ca/2016/11/23/object-caused-near-collision-porter-plane-not-drone/

I guess a description of the "object" is too much to ask for? f***ing media.

 

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25 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

I guess a description of the "object" is too much to ask for? f***ing media.
 

Yeah, too much to ask for from "media" these days.

Anyways, the TSB is wrong when they sate, "the incident occurred too far from shore and too high for the object to be a drone."

Custom drones/FPVs can fly out over 80Km and over 10,000ft high.  As for the size, well, custom craft can be made to almost any size, of course, the larger the object was the less chance of it being "a drone", so it would be really nice of them to f***ing tell us HOW BIG this things was!  Again, too much too ask it seems!  Arseholes, all of them.
 

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According to initial information the aircraft was descending through 9000 feet at about 230 KIAS and 1500 feet rate of descent when the crew spotted an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), solid, dark, about 5-8 feet in diameter, directly ahead. The crew made abrupt nose down inputs for an evasive maneouver, one flight attendant lifted off her feet as result and struck her head on the cabin ceiling, the other flight attendant fell against a galley wall, struck her shoulder on the wall and strained her arm while trying to hold on. The crew subsequently continued to descend at 1500 fpm and landed safely on runway 26. There were negative G-values recorded. There is no evidence that the aircraft collided with the UAV, however, it is possible that the aircraft was overstressed in the maneouver, the aircraft has been grounded therefore.

On Nov 21st 2016 the Canadian TSB reported the aircraft was descending through about 8300 feet 29nm east of the initial approach fix when the crew noticed a solid object, about 5-8 feet in diameter and shaped like an upright doughnut, directly ahead. It appeared there was no relative movement and the object came rapidly closer to the aircraft. The captain overrode the autopilot in order to quickly descend the aircraft under the object, there was no impact. Both cabin crew, still in the process of preparing the cabin for arrival, were not seated and received minor injuries when thrown into the cabin structure. There were no injuries to passengers and no damage to the aircraft. The TSB did not open an investigation.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4a0c1940&opt=0

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an "upright doughnut" doesn't sound like something using propellers for propulsion....and no investigation?  interesting.

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Interestingly, they have found SA as well.. Here is the story

 

Jeffreys Bay – An unidentified flying object was apparently spotted 1 000 feet (about 300m) above a plane before it was seen hurtling towards earth on Monday night, the National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) said on Tuesday.

The UFO was spotted around 21:30 on Monday.

"A Boeing 737 cargo aircraft captain and co-pilot, flying from Cape Town International Airport to Port Elizabeth International Airport, reported seeing what appeared to be a green object increasing in altitude past the cockpit of their aeroplane, reaching to about a thousand feet into clouds above them, and then returning towards earth at high speed past the cockpit of the aeroplane," NSRI spokesperson Craig Lambinon said.

"The sighting was reported to air traffic control at Port Elizabeth International Airport who requested NSRI's assistance to investigate the possibility that an aircraft or craft may be in difficulty."

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