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Dem senator introducing bill to abolish Electoral College

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 DarkKnightNomeD    1,889

Jesus LOL

:blonde:

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/306121-dem-senator-introducing-bill-to-abolish-electoral-college

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Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) will introduce legislation on Tuesday to get rid of the Electoral College, after Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election despite leading in the popular vote. 

"In my lifetime, I have seen two elections where the winner of the general election did not win the popular vote," Boxer said in a statement. "In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted, 'The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. I couldn't agree more. One person, one vote!"

She added that Clinton, who she supported, is "on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama. ...The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately." 

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 Cinnamon    19,993

haha Dumb *****!  It's only outdated because the Marxist co-fem of hers lost the fn election!  The electoral college is the only thing that's saving us from a Clinton presidency right now (unless popular vote counts Trump as winner).  It's not outdated, it will allow MOB RULE if it's destroyed. There's a reason it's there. She's appealing to the emo and uneducated. f*** her, I can't stand that pos! 

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 DarkKnightNomeD    1,889
9 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

haha Dumb *****!  It's only outdated because the Marxist co-fem of hers lost the fn election!  The electoral college is the only thing that's saving us from a Clinton presidency right now (unless popular vote counts Trump as winner).  It's not outdated, it will allow MOB RULE if it's destroyed. There's a reason it's there. She's appealing to the emo and uneducated. f*** her, I can't stand that pos! 

You hearing rumours about Trey Gowdy being Attorney General?

THAT - Would be fun, to watch as well his conferences, grillings, ect.

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 Cinnamon    19,993
Just now, DarkKnightNomeD said:

You hearing rumours about Trey Gowdy being Attorney General?

THAT - Would be fun, to watch as well his conferences, grillings, ect.

No, I'm hearing rumors of neo-con mother f***er Guillani being AG, that's a DISASTER.

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 DarkKnightNomeD    1,889
1 minute ago, Cinnamon said:

No, I'm hearing rumors of neo-con mother f***er Guillani being AG, that's a DISASTER.

Here is a short list - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-staff-factbox-idUSKBN13A04V?il=0

This tweet has going viral - check the replies as well.

https://twitter.com/BartMcCoy5/status/798608913767616512

 

vid is old - year or so

 

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 Cinnamon    19,993

We see, then, that the plainest reading of the Twelfth Amendment is strongly supported by the clear intent of the Framers: the presidential electors have an absolute right to deliberate among themselves, setting aside external pressures, and to direct their electoral votes toward, as John Jay put it, “those men only who have become the most distinguished by their abilities and virtue, and in whom the people perceive just grounds for confidence” (“The Federalist,” No. 64). Indeed, this is more than a right: it is a grave and difficult duty.

Each and every elector, then, must search deep within his or her conscience and determine who ought to be the next president of the United States: the commander-in-chief of the world’s greatest military, chief executor of the world’s greatest body of laws, and chief defender of the world’s greatest Constitution. In this decision, the electors are bound by nothing—not the instructions of their state legislatures, not the will of the democratic mob. To make the electors subservient to someone else’s will, mere automata executing a decision already made, would betray the Founding Fathers, undermining the scheme of the Constitution and the presidency itself.

It is true that a number of states purport to bind electors in various ways. Many states demand that electors pledge to cast their electoral votes for a particular candidate and threaten fines for electors who “break” that putative pledge. However, these laws do not alter how votes cast by electors are counted (the Twelfth Amendment makes this clear), nor can these laws be used after-the-fact to punish electors, because—as originalist legal scholars have shown—they are uniformly unconstitutional. No sanction against a conscientious elector has ever survived court review, and such sanctions remain on the books only because they are completely unenforced.

Nor is there any risk that a conscientious elector will accidentally cause Hillary Clinton to be elected because of a “spoiler effect.” Unlike direct democratic votes in our system, the Electoral College requires an absolute majority of 270 electoral votes to win. It doesn’t just give the presidency to whoever has the most votes. If no candidate receives 270, then the House of Representatives—controlled overwhelmingly by Republicans—chooses the president from among the top three vote-getters. Regardless of how each elector acts, the next president will be a Republican.

The Responsibility Is Theirs Alone

So the decision falls to the electors. They are free to choose the next president. They cannot escape this awesome responsibility by appealing to the will of the people, nor by hiding behind a legally meaningless pledge to some state or party. Just as Clinton did not earn the White House by winning the popular vote, Trump did not earn the White House just because 306 Republican electors were chosen on November 8. Those electors now face a difficult choice. I do not envy them.

Each elector who feels that way has both the right and the duty to vote for somebody else.

If each of the 306 Republican electors truly believes, in his or her heart of hearts, that Trump is the best man for the job, that he is the American with the greatest “abilities and virtue, in whom the people perceive just grounds for confidence,” who has all “the qualities adapted to the station” of the presidency… in that case, by all means, they should cast their votes accordingly, and Trump will become, on December 19, president-elect of the United States.

But if there is doubt; if, after deliberation with fellow electors, it seems clear that there are Americans better suited to serve as commander-in-chief, then each elector who feels that way has both the right and the duty, as officers of the Constitution of the United States, to vote for somebody else.

That is the system our Constitution demands. It is not a theft. It is not an error. It is by design.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/15/electoral-college-didnt-steal-election-trump/

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 thedudeabides    2,274
18 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

No, I'm hearing rumors of neo-con mother f***er Guillani being AG, that's a DISASTER.

Nope he is going into a different position.

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 Cinnamon    19,993
4 minutes ago, thedudeabides said:

Nope he is going into a different position.

He's on the short list for both.

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 Groove    1,689
2 hours ago, DarkKnightNomeD said:

Jesus LOL

:blonde:

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/306121-dem-senator-introducing-bill-to-abolish-electoral-college

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Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) will introduce legislation on Tuesday to get rid of the Electoral College, after Hillary Clinton lost the presidential election despite leading in the popular vote. 

"In my lifetime, I have seen two elections where the winner of the general election did not win the popular vote," Boxer said in a statement. "In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted, 'The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. I couldn't agree more. One person, one vote!"

She added that Clinton, who she supported, is "on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama. ...The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately." 

 

:liberaltrump:

:liberaltears:

and bs of course it's a Cali senator and yeah good luck with that happening. 

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