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Nostradamus: The 2016 Election

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 Ukshep    20,200

So i just found out the history channel is doing a special on the 2016 election and Nostradamus! Which Premieres Sun Nov 6 at 10/9c

@WorldWatcher thanks for the heads up!

Which is tomorrow! So in advance i thought it might be good to do a thread and brush up on this while we have a breather!

Below are the complete 4-line versions of the verses used in the special and translated from Nostradamus’s 16th C. French original. They have been sourced from various translations of the original. In some cases we have included alternative translations. They are arranged in the order they appear in the special.

CENTURY III, QUATRAIN 81
The great shameless, audacious bawler,
He will be elected governor of the army:
The boldness of his contention,
The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 15
The masculine woman will exert herself to the north
She will annoy nearly all of Europe and the rest of the world.
Two failures will put her in such an imbalance
That both life and death will strengthen Eastern Europe

Alternate translation CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 15
Great exertions towards the North by a man-woman
to vex Europe and almost all the Universe.
The two eclipses will be put into such a rout
that they will reinforce life or death for the Eastern Europeans.

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 23
Letters are found in the queen's chests,
No signature and no name of the author.
The ruse will conceal the offers;
so that they do not know who the lover is.

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 20
The false message about the rigged election
to run through the city stopping the broken pact;
voices bought, chapel stained with blood,
the empire contracted to another one.

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 57
The trumpet shakes with great discord.
An agreement broken: lifting the face to heaven:
the bloody mouth will swim with blood;
the face anointed with milk and honey lies on the ground.

CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 46
After great trouble for humanity, a greater one is prepared
The Great Mover renews the ages:
Rain, blood, milk, famine, steel and plague,
Is the heavens fire seen, a long spark running.

Alternate translation line 1, CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 46
Following one great human tragedy, a greater lies in wait…

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 53
Alas, how we will see a great nation sorely troubled
and the holy law in utter ruin.
Christianity (governed) throughout by other laws,
when a new source of gold and silver is discovered.

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 61
The wretched, unfortunate republic
will again be ruined by a new authority.
The great amount of ill will accumulated in exile
will make the Swiss break their important agreement.

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 60
An Emperor will be born near Italy,
who will cost the Empire very dearly.
They will say, when they see his allies,
that he is less a prince than a butcher.

CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 51
The blood of the just will commit a fault at London,
Burnt through lightning of twenty threes the six:
The ancient lady will fall from her high place,
Several of the same sect will be killed.

Alternate Translation of Lines 1 + 2, CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 51
The blood of the upright will be absent from London.
She will burn up suddenly by divine will in the year ending 666.

CENTURY VI, QUATRAIN 97
At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,
Fire to approach the great new city:
In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up,
When one will want to demand proof of the Normans.

Alternate translation, CENTURY VI, QUATRAIN 97
The sky will burn at 45 degrees
Fire will approach the great new city.
All of a sudden a thick wall of flame will leap upwards.
When they ask for proof from the northerns. bawl

CENTURY IV, QUATRAIN 54
Of the name which no Gallic King ever had
Never was there so fearful a thunderbolt,
Italy, Spain and the English trembling,
Very attentive to a woman and foreigners.

CENTURY IV, QUATRAIN 16
The city of liberty made servile:
Made the asylum of profligates and dreamers.
The King changed to them not so violent:
From one hundred become more than a thousand.

CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 24
With the hunger of the wild beasts they will cross the rivers.
Most of the country will be against Hister.
The great man will find himself paraded inside a cage of iron.
The German child of the Rhine will see nothing.

Alternate translation, CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 24
Beasts ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers:
The greater part of the region will be against the Hister,
The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage,
When the German child will observe nothing.

CENTURY VI, QUATRAIN 83
He who will have so much honor and flattery
At his entry into Belgian Gaul:
A while after he will act very rudely,
And he will act very warlike against the flower.

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 35
The young lion will overcome the old one…
Hand to hand, on the field of combat
His eyes will burst in their golden helmet
Two breaks in one, followed by a merciless death.

Alternate translation, CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 35
The young lion will overcome the older one,
In a field of combat in single fight:
He will pierce his eyes in their golden cage;
Two wounds in one, then he dies a cruel death.

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 70
He will enter, wicked, unpleasant, infamous,
tyrannizing over Mesopotamia.
All friends made by the adulterous lady,
The land dreadful and black of aspect.

Alternate Translation, CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 70
He will enter, ugly, bad, infamous.
He will tyrannize Mesopotamia…
Friends will pretend that the adulterous one has a soul.
The land is horrible, and black of aspect.

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 25
The lost thing is discovered, hidden for many centuries.
Pasteur will be celebrated almost as a god-like figure.
This is when the moon completes her great cycle,
but by other rumours he shall be dishonoured.

CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 67
The blonde one will come to compromise the fork-nosed one
Through the duel and will chase him out:
The exiles within he will have restored,
Committing the strongest to the marine places.

CENTURY V, QUATRAIN 60
By the shaven head a very bad choice will come to be made,
Overburdened he will not pass the gate:
He will speak with such great fury and rage,
That to fire and blood he will consign the entire sex.

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 86
When the great queen sees herself conquered,
she will show an excess of masculine courage.
Naked, on horseback, she will pass over the river
pursued by the sword: she will have outraged her faith

http://www.history.com/specials/nostradamus-election-2016/pages/nostradamus-election-2016-quatrains

I'm going to enjoy this one. I rarely watch tv!

Any of these quatrains stand out as having took place already?

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 CSB    2,038

As I read these I got a shiver up my spine . Wow do some of these stand out to me on this eve of the 2016 elections .

@Ukshep

  So i just found out the history channel is doing a special on the 2016 election and Nostradamus! Which Premieres Sun Nov 6 at 10/9c

I will bring the popcorn :popcorn:

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 Ukshep    20,200
4 minutes ago, CSB said:

As I read these I got a shiver up my spine . Wow do some of these stand out to me on this eve of the 2016 elections .

@Ukshep

  So i just found out the history channel is doing a special on the 2016 election and Nostradamus! Which Premieres Sun Nov 6 at 10/9c

I will bring the popcorn :popcorn:

Yeh a lot of them do seem to fit. I feel like going through a few and trying to fit them before the show airs. See if we get close. Make a game out of it or something.

POPCORN PARTY!

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CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 15
 The masculine woman will exert herself to the north
 She will annoy nearly all of Europe and the rest of the world.
 Two failures will put her in such an imbalance
 That both life and death will strengthen Eastern Europe.

Well, the she-man part pretty much sums up either Mogherini or Merkel.

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1 hour ago, Team Uzi said:

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 15
 The masculine woman will exert herself to the north
 She will annoy nearly all of Europe and the rest of the world.
 Two failures will put her in such an imbalance
 That both life and death will strengthen Eastern Europe.

Well, the she-man part pretty much sums up either Mogherini or Merkel.

It also describes Obama ,  and fits if certain people are right and he is named head of the U.N.

4 hours ago, Ukshep said:


CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 24
With the hunger of the wild beasts they will cross the rivers.
Most of the country will be against Hister.
The great man will find himself paraded inside a cage of iron.
The German child of the Rhine will see nothing.

Alternate translation, CENTURY II, QUATRAIN 24
Beasts ferocious from hunger will swim across rivers:
The greater part of the region will be against the Hister,
The great one will cause it to be dragged in an iron cage,

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 35
The young lion will overcome the old one…
Hand to hand, on the field of combat
His eyes will burst in their golden helmet
Two breaks in one, followed by a merciless death.

Alternate translation, CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 35
The young lion will overcome the older one,
In a field of combat in single fight:
He will pierce his eyes in their golden cage;
Two wounds in one, then he dies a cruel death.

 

Any of these quatrains stand out as having took place already?

Off the top of my head, these are two of the most famous. The lion prophecy supposedly bout King Henry II and the other anout Hitler. I'd have to look at the others. It's been a long time since I read nostradamus stuff.

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 Malevolent    2,819
1 hour ago, Team Uzi said:

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 15
 The masculine woman (Dyke?) will exert herself to the north (North America?)
 She will annoy nearly all of Europe and the rest of the world. (That's so close it simply is not funny)
 Two failures will put her in such an imbalance (C-Foundation and all the lies and skulduggery associated bribes to foreign countries, pa to play etc & this heinous sex/pedophile thing ) 
 That both life and death will strengthen Eastern Europe. (i.e. Putin is smiling..)

Well, the she-man part pretty much sums up either Mogherini or Merkel.

I know some women may hunt me down and kill me before sunrise, but here it is.

I really do not believe that politics is a place for women.  No, I am not one of "those" men! Politics is such a dirt lying cheating business, for the most barely fit for a scoundrel. I prefer to see women do things that are more becoming of the feminine image, loving caring and nurturing (none of which is evident in almost all women in high political positions - just look at the current bunch). Do you really see your mother or the mother of your children in such a position? I doubt it!  I have no problem with the wife or partner of a politician getting stuck in and "caring" for those who need it.  Arranging and driving social upliftment programs, i.e. caring, loving and nurturing the very people at grassroots who are actually the drivers of the nation and the economy.  I think Trump's wife is a good example (for now).

Almost every women that I can think of in a high political position exudes almost everything that is negative to the characteristics that makes one want to call a women a lady!  Yes, there are those less so than others.  Thatcher was less so, but also had that ugly "hard-edge" which is a necessity in politics.

Here's the thing: Would you like to have for a mother or lover the likes of Hillary, Merkel, Markos, Rousseff, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, Evita Peron...the list goes on and on...even Michael (sic) Obama..

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Malevolent said:

I know some women may hunt me down and kill me before sunrise, but here it is.

I really do not believe that politics is a place for women.  No, I am not one of "those" men! Politics is such a dirt lying cheating business, for the most barely fit for a scoundrel. I prefer to see women do things that are more becoming of the feminine image, loving caring and nurturing (none of which is evident in almost all women in high political positions - just look at the current bunch). Do you really see your mother or the mother of your children in such a position? I doubt it!  I have no problem with the wife or partner of a politician getting stuck in and "caring" for those who need it.  Arranging and driving social upliftment programs, i.e. caring, loving and nurturing the very people at grassroots who are actually the drivers of the nation and the economy.  I think Trump's wife is a good example (for now).

Almost every women that I can think of in a high political position exudes almost everything that is negative to the characteristics that makes one want to call a women a lady!  Yes, there are those less so than others.  Thatcher was less so, but also had that ugly "hard-edge" which is a necessity in politics.

Here's the thing: Would you like to have for a mother or lover the likes of Hillary, Merkel, Markos, Rousseff, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, Evita Peron...the list goes on and on...even Michael (sic) Obama..

 

 

The Chinese theory of government is the parent -child relationship.

The maternal is not considered rational input.

Although ancestors (including grandma) is considered appropriate, overall it's the paternal government that sees over the flock.

European society (socialist) have reinstated the maternal without the express knowledge of the paternal has created a pseudo paternal with only the exclaim of power without the restraint of responsibility.

The rivers of feeling ebbed by the insatiable appetite for control over the minions.

the fertile soil of liberal socialism that has yielded a clouded reality in Europe and has given rise to unabashed insanity.

White genocide is the conclusion to this episode so that the patriarch shall never be reinstated.

Federica Mogherini was largely responsible for the destruction of particularly eastern Europe by channeling "migration" through those northern European countries to their final destination, Sweden.

The agenda is still the same.

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On 11/5/2016 at 6:22 PM, Ukshep said:

Yeh a lot of them do seem to fit. I feel like going through a few and trying to fit them before the show airs. See if we get close. Make a game out of it or something.

POPCORN PARTY!

If I am not mistaken this finishes Quatrains. That goes along with these being the last days.

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These quatrains are true.  

Immediately after the Trump win, the markets crashed along with the hopes and dreams of millions of Americans who hoped for equality and stability. 

Nostradamus calls Trump the "Great, Shameless, Audacious Bawler" and calls Trump an agent of great discord.

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 Tarmalen    1,310
On 11/5/2016 at 10:39 PM, Team Uzi said:

CENTURY VIII, QUATRAIN 15
 The masculine woman will exert herself to the north
 She will annoy nearly all of Europe and the rest of the world.
 Two failures will put her in such an imbalance
 That both life and death will strengthen Eastern Europe.

Well, the she-man part pretty much sums up either Mogherini or Merkel.

Sounds like Angela Merkel.

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 Tarmalen    1,310

CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 35
The young lion will overcome the old one…
Hand to hand, on the field of combat
His eyes will burst in their golden helmet
Two breaks in one, followed by a merciless death.

Alternate translation, CENTURY I, QUATRAIN 35
The young lion will overcome the older one,
In a field of combat in single fight:
He will pierce his eyes in their golden cage;
Two wounds in one, then he dies a cruel death.

 

 

That is the quatrain that really made him famous back in the day. 

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