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 thedudeabides    2,491

Many are of the opinion it is the hand of some shadow ruling class. Some believe it is for some means to an end for an in your face NWO UN plan of Action. What do you believe?

This is what I believe, and this is my opinion.

 

Three things.

Three things bring us to arms.

  • Religion.
  • Greed.
  • Power. 

The powers that be as we have come to call them each seek these three things in some way or another. Yet they have no real power, aside from the power we the people allow them to have.

They have paper, worth nothing.

They have Land, that can be taken.

They have power, which can be lost, with a single upheaval. 

True Power Is Gods alone. No man can deny this simple truth. God is is in control of everything. He either allows it to occur, or stops it dead. 

Yet for millennia we still allow people to lead who lead us to ruination. On occasion we revolt, only to be castrated by the newest technology. Swords, Longbows, Full plated armor, Gunpowder. Now social engineering and social media, a means of control and sight. They know all and see all. every interaction on the internet is known to them. No matter how you access the web, they know. There is nothing you can do.

Well there is one thing. Pick up whichever Pitch fork is available to you in your current level of technology. We will soon know, after this election. What to do. I will not stand by if trump fails us, and I will not stand by if Hillary is elected. 

 

I will instead choose to stand and fight, for what is right, not what they tell me to fight for.

 

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 Walk Softly    2,830

1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

John 16:11  Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged.

James 4:4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

Matthew 16:26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?

Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

I have no stake in this world.  They can have it... for now.  I have FAITH that God is true to his word when he tells me this struggle is NOT against flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness.  

I will refuse to take up arms for anything other than protecting my family and friends.  

The Bible tells us over and over to be more like Jesus.  What did Jesus do in the face of death from his enemies?

Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

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People fight because they don't want to be wrong.

They fight to make one side agree to act like them and have the same values as them. Look at CT sites, people fight for the same reasons. They want everyone to think like them, Flat Earthers want every one to be Flat Earthers, Spherical Earthers are no different.

 

People look for validation of their own beliefs, then they defend them or group together to defend them. Everyone wants to be right but few want to examine their values very closely to see if they are right.

 

This is all a facet of the reptilian brain, the core of our brains and the simple values systems the reptilian brain uses. It is simple, not much more than a calculating machine that can't entertain more than one possibility  once. It seeks security in conformity and will attempt to manufacture that conformity if required.

 

That is why people fight.

Groups and corporations fight to gain advantage over others.

 

Making people fight, well that is the method employed by Sociopaths. They find two groups with differing values and point them out to each other and watch it all go down. In many nations the Sociopaths spend a long time creating values that will get their majority populous to agree to fight the adversaries of the Sociopaths. "Did you know Muslims are not like the rest of us?" Well if you live in a western nation you have had that thrown down your throat until you believe it and the terrible threat to you cosy way of life. The Sociopaths made you believe that using all the hooks and handles they had previously installed into your mind. But it works on any group who can be made to be perceived different from yourself and your values.

 

In the USA they demonized socialism to enable the USA to attack socialist nations and allow US corporations to dominate those nations afterwards. They people vigorously  backed the slaughter of rightfully elected socialist governments who threw US corporations out of their nations. All because socialism had been presented as a dire threat to the US way of life.

To this day that indoctrination is still alive and strong in the US mind, along with all the other BS they were taught so their corporations who control the US government can do war on nations who won't let them exploit them.

 

Such social indoctrination is as strong as religious fanaticism and equally defended.

 

If you had no values or chose to have flexible values there would be nothing to fight about. You would not think there was anything worth shedding blood over.

 

That is the real trick, getting people to have rigid values they would shed blood over or allow their unformed youth to shed blood over. People are prepared to let their young people die in order to be right, to be correct in their belief their values are correct whether they actually are or not.

 

If you want to get along with people you need to forget everything you think you know and go back to square one and start from fresh. No-one over 30 has the stones to consider that seriously, their minds have become to rigid and they have been taught to defend their programming as if their lives depended on it.

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 Walk Softly    2,830
3 minutes ago, KeyMaster said:

People fight because they don't want to be wrong.

They fight to make one side agree to act like them and have the same values as them. Look at CT sites, people fight for the same reasons. They want everyone to think like them, Flat Earthers want every one to be Flat Earthers, Spherical Earthers are no different.

 

People look for validation of their own beliefs, then they defend them or group together to defend them. Everyone wants to be right but few want to examine their values very closely to see if they are right.

 

This is all a facet of the reptilian brain, the core of our brains and the simple values systems the reptilian brain uses. It is simple, not much more than a calculating machine that can't entertain more than one possibility  once. It seeks security in conformity and will attempt to manufacture that conformity if required.

 

That is why people fight.

Groups and corporations fight to gain advantage over others.

 

Making people fight, well that is the method employed by Sociopaths. They find two groups with differing values and point them out to each other and watch it all go down. In many nations the Sociopaths spend a long time creating values that will get their majority populous to agree to fight the adversaries of the Sociopaths. "Did you know Muslims are not like the rest of us?" Well if you live in a western nation you have had that thrown down your throat until you believe it and the terrible threat to you cosy way of life. The Sociopaths made you believe that using all the hooks and handles they had previously installed into your mind. But it works on any group who can be made to be perceived different from yourself and your values.

 

In the USA they demonized socialism to enable the USA to attack socialist nations and allow US corporations to dominate those nations afterwards. They people vigorously  backed the slaughter of rightfully elected socialist governments who threw US corporations out of their nations. All because socialism had been presented as a dire threat to the US way of life.

To this day that indoctrination is still alive and strong in the US mind, along with all the other BS they were taught so their corporations who control the US government can do war on nations who won't let them exploit them.

 

Such social indoctrination is as strong as religious fanaticism and equally defended.

 

If you had no values or chose to have flexible values there would be nothing to fight about. You would not think there was anything worth shedding blood over.

 

That is the real trick, getting people to have rigid values they would shed blood over or allow their unformed youth to shed blood over. People are prepared to let their young people die in order to be right, to be correct in their belief their values are correct whether they actually are or not.

 

If you want to get along with people you need to forget everything you think you know and go back to square one and start from fresh. No-one over 30 has the stones to consider that seriously, their minds have become to rigid and they have been taught to defend their programming as if their lives depended on it.

I'm over 30 and I consider your comments to be fairly accurate. I struggle with the communism deal, though I admit it could be my indoctrination talking.  I've just never seen a successful example of it.  Ofcourse, I can't point you in the direction of a successful example of capitalism.   Greed/Power always wins... no matter the system. 

I'm very religious and wrote above about how I wouldn't take up arms unless it was to defend myself or my family from harm.  But I also believe what the bible says and realize that most of what you hear in church is part of the problem.  

Overall... that was a good post.  You should make a profile.  I'd like to hear more of your thoughts.  

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 VonLud    924
12 minutes ago, KeyMaster said:

People fight because they don't want to be wrong.

They fight to make one side agree to act like them and have the same values as them. Look at CT sites, people fight for the same reasons. They want everyone to think like them, Flat Earthers want every one to be Flat Earthers, Spherical Earthers are no different.

 

People look for validation of their own beliefs, then they defend them or group together to defend them. Everyone wants to be right but few want to examine their values very closely to see if they are right.

 

This is all a facet of the reptilian brain, the core of our brains and the simple values systems the reptilian brain uses. It is simple, not much more than a calculating machine that can't entertain more than one possibility  once. It seeks security in conformity and will attempt to manufacture that conformity if required.

 

That is why people fight.

Groups and corporations fight to gain advantage over others.

 

Making people fight, well that is the method employed by Sociopaths. They find two groups with differing values and point them out to each other and watch it all go down. In many nations the Sociopaths spend a long time creating values that will get their majority populous to agree to fight the adversaries of the Sociopaths. "Did you know Muslims are not like the rest of us?" Well if you live in a western nation you have had that thrown down your throat until you believe it and the terrible threat to you cosy way of life. The Sociopaths made you believe that using all the hooks and handles they had previously installed into your mind. But it works on any group who can be made to be perceived different from yourself and your values.

 

In the USA they demonized socialism to enable the USA to attack socialist nations and allow US corporations to dominate those nations afterwards. They people vigorously  backed the slaughter of rightfully elected socialist governments who threw US corporations out of their nations. All because socialism had been presented as a dire threat to the US way of life.

To this day that indoctrination is still alive and strong in the US mind, along with all the other BS they were taught so their corporations who control the US government can do war on nations who won't let them exploit them.

 

Such social indoctrination is as strong as religious fanaticism and equally defended.

 

If you had no values or chose to have flexible values there would be nothing to fight about. You would not think there was anything worth shedding blood over.

 

That is the real trick, getting people to have rigid values they would shed blood over or allow their unformed youth to shed blood over. People are prepared to let their young people die in order to be right, to be correct in their belief their values are correct whether they actually are or not.

 

If you want to get along with people you need to forget everything you think you know and go back to square one and start from fresh. No-one over 30 has the stones to consider that seriously, their minds have become to rigid and they have been taught to defend their programming as if their lives depended on it.

The dude was talking about world wars and shit, not about bickering on a forum. But you did elaborate, so I will let that part slide.

The reptilian brain is solely concerned with eating the other creature and in turn not being eaten by the other creature. It cares not for persuasion.

Where I come from, we fight because somebody wants our shit and we don't want them to have our shit. I think that can also extend to any type of "socialistic" system that wishes to take away said shit from me and give it to another that may or may not deserve it.

And people under thirty are generally retarded but think they have some kind of great answer that nobody ever thought of before.

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Just now, VonLud said:

The dude was talking about world wars and shit, not about bickering on a forum. But you did elaborate, so I will let that part slide.

The reptilian brain is solely concerned with eating the other creature and in turn not being eaten by the other creature. It cares not for persuasion.

Where I come from, we fight because somebody wants our shit and we don't want them to have our shit. I think that can also extend to any type of "socialistic" system that wishes to take away said shit from me and give it to another that may or may not deserve it.

And people under thirty are generally retarded but think they have some kind of great answer that nobody ever thought of before.

You show a lack of extensive education and you are expressing your version of what you think is right so you can go on thinking you are right. You have backed up what I said beautifully.

BTW I am in my 40's.

 

You believe what you have been programmed to believe. And you will defend it without question it validity in reality.

 

Want to keep fighting?

What was the shit I was taking from you?

It was your values and ideals.

See you did exactly as I predicted. I see you know you are not top shelf in the knowledge department from your comments about people who think they know better than us. You seek to defend you place rather than progressing upwards mentally.

 

The more people post on these site the more they are showing the inner workings of their mind whether they want to or not. You are exposed, handle it. Don't like being judged then don't post anything.

What you wanted us to all surround you and applaud your every word and post?

 

Now you hate me even though you don't know me. All because I dared challenge your thinking and now you are defending your programming just as a religious fanatic defends theirs.

 

You feel threatened by people who you think are smarter than you. I see that in your posts. Everyone does, but your friends will lie to your face and back you up because that is what friends do.

I'm you real friend, because I am prepared to tell you the truth about yourself to your face. But you will hate me for it.

 

This is why I don't bother making friends on CT sites. It stops you from telling the truth to people that really need to know it so they can progress.

 

No I am not your enemy by your ego has by now convinced you I am so it gets to stay in control of you.

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2 hours ago, thedudeabides said:

Many are of the opinion it is the hand of some shadow ruling class. Some believe it is for some means to an end for an in your face NWO UN plan of Action. What do you believe?

This is what I believe, and this is my opinion.

 

Three things.

Three things bring us to arms.

  • Religion.
  • Greed.
  • Power. 

The powers that be as we have come to call them each seek these three things in some way or another. Yet they have no real power, aside from the power we the people allow them to have.

They have paper, worth nothing.

They have Land, that can be taken.

They have power, which can be lost, with a single upheaval. 

True Power Is Gods alone. No man can deny this simple truth. God is is in control of everything. He either allows it to occur, or stops it dead. 

Yet for millennia we still allow people to lead who lead us to ruination. On occasion we revolt, only to be castrated by the newest technology. Swords, Longbows, Full plated armor, Gunpowder. Now social engineering and social media, a means of control and sight. They know all and see all. every interaction on the internet is known to them. No matter how you access the web, they know. There is nothing you can do.

Well there is one thing. Pick up whichever Pitch fork is available to you in your current level of technology. We will soon know, after this election. What to do. I will not stand by if trump fails us, and I will not stand by if Hillary is elected. 

 

I will instead choose to stand and fight, for what is right, not what they tell me to fight for.

 

Then you better get ready because Trump will fail you if elected. Trump has paper, so, let's take it. Trump has plenty of lands, we shall snatch it. He really is more powerful than you think so we shall heave him from his throne. Nothing and I fuggin mean nothing will change the course we have been set upon. Time to pull the Trump goggles off and smarten back up. You're on a conspiracy forum goddammit, act accordingly. Go back and research everything that led you here. Take a tinfoil refresher course, hell we all should. The political establishment is set up to get away with everything and the government is as well. You honestly think if you were the one who put classified top secret emails on your private server then deleted them that you would be walkin the streets, hell let alone run for even constable of your county ? ..... Fuggin no you wouldn't!!     IT IS A GAME that is what it has been since Icenhour and he warned us all, but we can't seem to fully grasp the danger this GAME puts us in.

 

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 VonLud    924
17 minutes ago, KeyMaster said:

You show a lack of extensive education and you are expressing your version of what you think is right so you can go on thinking you are right. You have backed up what I said beautifully.

BTW I am in my 40's.

 

You believe what you have been programmed to believe. And you will defend it without question it validity in reality.

 

Want to keep fighting?

What was the shit I was taking from you?

It was your values and ideals.

See you did exactly as I predicted. I see you know you are not top shelf in the knowledge department from your comments about people who think they know better than us. You seek to defend you place rather than progressing upwards mentally.

 

The more people post on these site the more they are showing the inner workings of their mind whether they want to or not. You are exposed, handle it. Don't like being judged then don't post anything.

What you wanted us to all surround you and applaud your every word and post?

 

Now you hate me even though you don't know me. All because I dared challenge your thinking and now you are defending your programming just as a religious fanatic defends theirs.

 

You feel threatened by people who you think are smarter than you. I see that in your posts. Everyone does, but your friends will lie to your face and back you up because that is what friends do.

I'm you real friend, because I am prepared to tell you the truth about yourself to your face. But you will hate me for it.

 

This is why I don't bother making friends on CT sites. It stops you from telling the truth to people that really need to know it so they can progress.

 

No I am not your enemy by your ego has by now convinced you I am so it gets to stay in control of you.

OK I read it now, I think.

Incoherent jibberish.

Make  an actual point and I will talk to you like you are in your "40's".

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 thedudeabides    2,491
19 hours ago, KeyMaster said:

People fight because they don't want to be wrong.

They fight to make one side agree to act like them and have the same values as them. Look at CT sites, people fight for the same reasons. They want everyone to think like them, Flat Earthers want every one to be Flat Earthers, Spherical Earthers are no different.

 

People look for validation of their own beliefs, then they defend them or group together to defend them. Everyone wants to be right but few want to examine their values very closely to see if they are right.

 

This is all a facet of the reptilian brain, the core of our brains and the simple values systems the reptilian brain uses. It is simple, not much more than a calculating machine that can't entertain more than one possibility  once. It seeks security in conformity and will attempt to manufacture that conformity if required.

 

That is why people fight.

Groups and corporations fight to gain advantage over others.

 

Making people fight, well that is the method employed by Sociopaths. They find two groups with differing values and point them out to each other and watch it all go down. In many nations the Sociopaths spend a long time creating values that will get their majority populous to agree to fight the adversaries of the Sociopaths. "Did you know Muslims are not like the rest of us?" Well if you live in a western nation you have had that thrown down your throat until you believe it and the terrible threat to you cosy way of life. The Sociopaths made you believe that using all the hooks and handles they had previously installed into your mind. But it works on any group who can be made to be perceived different from yourself and your values.

 

In the USA they demonized socialism to enable the USA to attack socialist nations and allow US corporations to dominate those nations afterwards. They people vigorously  backed the slaughter of rightfully elected socialist governments who threw US corporations out of their nations. All because socialism had been presented as a dire threat to the US way of life.

To this day that indoctrination is still alive and strong in the US mind, along with all the other BS they were taught so their corporations who control the US government can do war on nations who won't let them exploit them.

 

Such social indoctrination is as strong as religious fanaticism and equally defended.

 

If you had no values or chose to have flexible values there would be nothing to fight about. You would not think there was anything worth shedding blood over.

 

That is the real trick, getting people to have rigid values they would shed blood over or allow their unformed youth to shed blood over. People are prepared to let their young people die in order to be right, to be correct in their belief their values are correct whether they actually are or not.

 

If you want to get along with people you need to forget everything you think you know and go back to square one and start from fresh. No-one over 30 has the stones to consider that seriously, their minds have become to rigid and they have been taught to defend their programming as if their lives depended on it.

Thank you for your opinion. I disagree with many of the things you said.  Again, though, thank you for sharing.

 

First thing, the reptilian brain statement. That is a scientific "theory" that was tossed out decades ago. The Primordial brain which operates most of nervous system, most of Which is done via the Vagus Nerve, it is not that of a Reptile. It by no means resembles one, nor does it function or correlate in any similar fashion. 

 

Now, Socialism/communism. Which are the same thing, with slight differences. The US did not do anything to demonize them. The 100 million slain by Mao and the 17 million by Stalin did that. The countless millions who starved thanks to collective farming Spoke resoundingly of the failures of communism and Socialism. The Crushing hand of propaganda, that literally created an entire generation of robots. All incapable of individualistic though or Innovation. Anyone defending Socialism/communism is either themselves brainwashed, or clueless to the reality of what they bring to the table. Any system of rule that requires a man to forcibly give up that which he himself worked to create with his own hands is a flawed system. 

 

On the topic of Muslims. For over 1400 years they have been nothing but a arm of Chaos in the World. Striking out against the world, only to be pushed back time and time again. Only becoming more zealous with each occasion. Islam has proven itself to be a cancer to this earth. Does the political ideology of Islam have its good people, sure. But good by whose standards? Every major Islamic Nation allows the beheading of homosexuals, the stoning of Women, Acid attacks, and many other terrible things. yet we applaud the Moderate Muslim, who openly supports Sharia?  All because they do not commit acts of terrorism on little Jonny back home in new York. Meanwhile they rape little boys, mutilate women, and act out many other disgusting things. 

 

You speaks of  "Such social indoctrination". Yet here you are clearly indoctrinated. You seem like a Catholic raised individual. You all tend to have this twisted world view, pinch me if my hunch is wrong. 

 

The powers that be have no real power. They are weak without the "peasant" who complies. Which is why they are trying to take away our voice, the internet.  

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I can say whatever I want 'cuz you don't talk to us FEers. ha ha. I made no such bargain. So there.

Basic ct. We fight for the slave owner whose overseers keep us in their stables. Gladiators. Fighting hamsters. Puny mindless creatures.

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 thedudeabides    2,491
28 minutes ago, grav said:

I can say whatever I want 'cuz you don't talk to us FEers. ha ha. I made no such bargain. So there.

Basic ct. We fight for the slave owner whose overseers keep us in their stables. Gladiators. Fighting hamsters. Puny mindless creatures.

I was having a bad day yesterday, apologies for my harsh words. 

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