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How to deal with court orders cease and desist etc

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 Guitar Doc    1,207

We live in a system of commercial law. Commercial law is contract law and contracts require an agreement between two parties.

This is the heart commercial law. No one can be compelled into an agreement against their will. That would be a violation of their common law rights.

 

People are deliberately kept in ignorance of how the law works, lawyers would become low paid filing clerks if people knew.

Judges are also complicit as they do nothing to aid people or advise them of their full rights. 

Court orders made under commercial law require your agreement or lack of dispute to make them stick.

Each nation (really a registered corporation) has it's own rules under the master framework of commercial law. It pays to check your nations particulars in regards to contracts.

Specifically the time period of non response which counts as an acceptance of an agreement which counts as if you signed the agreement. This time period can vary from nation to nation.

In NZ for instance it is 10 working days.

You don't have to accept a court order, you can dispute it.

To do this is not expensive and doesn't require a lawyer. All you have to do is file basic paperwork disputing the court order.

Once in dispute the order has no effect until the dispute is settled.

 

Individuals who try to slap a cease and desist order on you pay $500 upwards to a lawyer to do so depending on how much their lawyer charges.

To despute this costs you 25 or less to do it yourself. If they want to keep trying it costs them a lot of money to get nowhere.

They say knowledge is power, that knowledge is legal knowledge. Keeping that knowledge closed to the general public keeps a select group in power over you.

 

Step one of dealing with the courts is to always dispute jurisdiction over you. Unless they can prove they do (by showing your signature on agreement giving them jurisdiction over you) then they only have jurisdiction over you if you agree to it and you simply don't have to.

That stop proceedings against you in their tracks.

One side spends thousands of dollars against you and you spend mere dollars preventing them stopping them.

A lot of lawyers make fortunes playing parties off against each other in cases which ultimately go nowhere. They get paid win lose or draw. The longer a case goes the more they make. The US courts are a good example of this.

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 CSB    1,665
Just now, Guitar Doc said:

Commercial law

In today's courts you are forced to compile with their demands with threats of jail and even at gun point . Civil Forfeiture anyone ??

Everything but murder is Commercial .

 

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 Guitar Doc    1,207
43 minutes ago, CSB said:

In today's courts you are forced to compile with their demands with threats of jail and even at gun point . Civil Forfeiture anyone ??

Everything but murder is Commercial .

 

In chess you defeat your opposition by making your moves right in front of them. Often people are thinking many moves ahead and predicting what their opponent will do before they do it.

 

Chess however is just a board game.

Tsung Zu suggested all good warfare is deception. More modern and proven doctrines say you take every force you can muster, find and engage your enemy and wipe the floor with their bloodied corpses.

Both doctrines are taught at Westpoint. One doctrine relies on perfect intelligence, the other suggests perfect intelligence is not always obtainable.

Either way I don't think it is advisable to be standing on a battlefield between two opposing forces unless you have a very cunning plan.

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 Guitar Doc    1,207

This thread is telling people how to deal with court orders, cease and desist letters etc.

If other people on site think they know how the law works then they should post about it.

It is simply preemptive information so people and Shep know what to do when the inevitable next step is taken.

Letting people know you don't have to accept having issues and topics shut down.

One of my Intel gathers got shut down by cease and desist etc because he didn't know he didn't have to accept them.

He was forbidden to communicate with the rest of us so we couldn't help him.

I felt partly responsible for not protecting him better and he didn't have to go through what he did.

Now I am preemptively making sure that won't happen again.

Many of the people we will be exposing try and use court orders to shut down people who are exposing them and their operations.

They will not be able to this time.

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