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  1. I have looked at the English version by Lamsa's from the Peshitta (Syriac Aramaic) version. In his translation, strangely enough he uses the word, "China," in a very few passages. This English version of the Peshitta has a different take on Daniel 9:24-27 that I had not seen before and is rather interesting in its own right. I will dig out my copy if his translation and citation to the books, chapters, and verse for his use of the word, "China," but that is going take some time have not yet picked up the concordance for it. But I will give that of Dan 9:24-27. The "book" abbreviation I use for the Lamsa's is (LMS). (Dan 9:24 LMS) "Seventy times seven weeks are determined upon your people and upon your holy city, to finish the transgressions and to make an end of sins and for the forgiveness of the iniquity and to bring in everlasting righteous and to fulfill the vision of the prophets and to give the most holy to Messiah. (Dan 9:25 LMS) Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of the Messiah the king shall be seven times seven weeks, and sixty-two times seven weeks; the people shall return and build Jerusalem, its streets, and its broad ways at the end of the appointed times. (Dan 9:26 LMS) After sixty-two times seven weeks, Messiah shall be slain, and the city shall be without a ruler; and the holy city shall be destroyed together with the coming king; and the end thereof shall be a mass exile, and at the end of the war, desolations are determined. (Dan 9:27 LMS) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for seven weeks and half of the seven weeks, then he shall cause the sacrifice and gift offerings to cease, and upon the horns of the altar the abomination of desolation; and the desolation shall continue until the end of the appointed time; the city shall remain desolate." AH, there in Genesis 10:4 LMS there is this: (Gen 10:4 LMS) And the sons of Javan: Elishah, Tarshish, China, and Doranim. Interesting, I know there are more of China found in the LMS, but just to let one know it is in there in the Peshitta, which China is meant, I have no further clue.
  2. It just says "a cup" in the KJV. Starting in Numbers 5:16-12 and continue the entire passage and you might be amazed and astonished what you found recorded there pertaining to the Cup in the Test for Adultery. In the application pertaining to the Book of the Revelation chapter Seventeen, it is GOD that is both the Husband and the High Priest. He is testing for whether or not this Wife of His is Faithful to Him or Unfaithful to Him. In Num 5:17 it is not called a 'cup' as found in a single word as it is find in the citation I had given above in an earlier post on Pharoah's cup. But there in Num 5:17 it is "an earthen vessel" that the holy water is poured into by the Priest. As "an earthen vessel" that something that is poured into it that can be drunken from, it can be 'figured' as a cup or bowl. The substance in Num 5:17 poured into that 'earthen vessel' is Holy Water. But that is not all that is put into that "earthen vessel", no, more is added into the mix than only water and that other substance is "the dust that is in {on?} the floor of the tabernacle" The mixture in the Book of Numbers there is a mix of water and "the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle." In Genesis speaking of Pharaoh's cup it is not seen as a 'earthen vessel" (at not at least in the KJV, its text uses the word "cup") and it is not water in Pharaoh's cup but rather Wine. Intoxicating wine. This is the start of the Cup that Mystery Babylon is given to drink from, and figure out Who is given that cup to in that part of Rev Seventeen, and what has been put in that cup, yes, wine with its intoxicating wine, but also something else, yet what is that Wine cut with, mixed with? In Genesis through at least Joshua one will find the 'apparatus' of the Tabernacle, its Rod, its Knife, its Cup, its Water, its Earth, its Wind, its Fire, its Sword. Those of the so called "Illuminati" use these same things in their 'rituals', btw, as they are trying to conjurer up their own dark plans and designs and spirits. These use the the Bible itself to use for their m*a*g*i*c as if they are Gods trying to storm The Almighty God's Heaven's Gate.
  3. There then is this one should consider: So he [one of those seven angels] carried me [John] away in the spirit into the {the? or a?} wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. -- (Rev 17:3-5 KJV) This woman in the figure has a golden cup in her hand. What Cup is she holding in her hand? We are told What is in it, but that tells us little right here what this Cup is and/or about. In my view, we cannot guess, we have to go back into the Bible in other places of the entire Bible and try to see if we can find a reference or even a hint of it in some other passage or verse. And NO, we are not to do "Biblical divination" to find out. Okay, where do we find out this clue, this hint of what cup it might be pointing to in a figure of speech? Search the Scriptures, and in particular the the Old Testament. And upon my first search I find this interesting tidbit: And the chief butler told his dream to Joseph, and said to him, "In my dream, behold, a vine was before me; And in the vine were three branches: and it was as though it budded, and her blossoms shot forth; and the clusters thereof brought forth ripe grapes: And Pharaoh's cup was in my hand: and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaoh's cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaoh's hand." -- (Gen 40:9-11 KJV) But absolutely search out more. And search on more for a clue of a Test for Adultery and its test of Jealousy in the Book of Exodus through The Book of Numbers and understand what the prophet had command in a judicial case that was at hand. It pertains to a Husband and his Wife. It is a test for adultery given to the Children of Israel performed in the Tabernacle (at first and later the Temple). Shall that Wife be found to be a Whore? Or Innocent of the Charge? You will find something there starting in Numbers 5:11-12 and continue the entire passage and you might be amazed and astonished what you found recorded there. Read the full passage from the Book of Numbers 5:11-31 several more times until you have nearly memorized it and found its understanding. When you read it read it out loud with your mouth. When you have done that, be amazed and astonished when you then go back to Rev 13: 3-ff and read it until the eyes of your understanding have become more enlightened. And then read, out loud if convenient, the whole of Isaiah 28:1-13 until you understand it better than you have before. And notice who is doing the speaking, who it is speaking to, and who it is speaking about, in its full context and pronouns and nouns, in its verbs, adjectives and adverbs. And then real the rest of the next part of the passage, Isaiah 28:14-29 and learn to discern in that text who those "ye scornful men" are. What city this men are ruling in and how they are ruling the people of that city. And who those people were. Or have you starting falling into stumble? Wake Up and Open Your Eyes. Let us meditate upon the Word of God and not the words of YouTubes. Be of good cheer, though we may loose a battle, in Christ Jesus we have already won that war.
  4. Thus saith Wikipedia! The Wikipedia hath spoken. Yes, there are many cities in the world that have seven hills, but there is only one city that had its people demand for the Crucifixion of our Lord, Jesus Christ, and that was city was Jerusalem.
  5. Tell me, expand the Context of that single verse, Jer 23:16 and widen it up a bit more and see a bit more: And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria; they prophesied in Baal, and caused my people Israel to err. (Jer 23:13 KJV) I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them {the prophets of Jerusalem?} unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah. (Jer 23:14 KJV) Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts concerning the{se} prophets; "Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land." (Jer 23:15 KJV) -- {Including the prophets of Samaria and the prophets of Jerusalem? -- Askakido} Thus saith the LORD of hosts, "Hearken not unto the words of the{se} prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD. (Jer 23:16 KJV) They say still unto them that despise me," "The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace;" ",and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart," "No evil shall come upon you." " (Jer 23:17 KJV) For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? Who hath marked his word, and heard it? (Jer 23:18 KJV) The next verses are interesting too: (Jer 23:19-23 KJV) Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked. (20) The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly. (21) I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. (22) But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings. (23) "Am I a God at hand," saith the LORD, "and not a God afar off?" {The answer is as, "Yes, I am a God at hand" -- Askakido}. Hear the words of G.W.B. in some of his speeches in Sept-Oct 2001 and following... basically invoking The Whirlwind upon the peoples of Afghanistan and the peoples of Iraq. Wondering which "god" he was invoking, the Almighty God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob OR the god of this age? Pondering...
  6. In this citation, I am wondering which translation's version of the English is being used here in that citation. In that citation I assume the Square Brackets [ ... ] and that within them is the commentator's derived understanding and not a literal of the text of that English's translated version. I find that even of my own writing of my own commenting of a Text I have not written I like to indicate my own comment in-place with the devices Square Brackets [ ... ], or Curly Braces { ... }, or //... // (like is done in C++ programming), or sometimes the parenthesis ( ... ) -- such a device or apparatus can be most helpful for one's readers. A problem arrives in running out of such devices and apparatuses to use. For example: (Jer 51:34 KJV) Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me {Who?} , he {Nebuchadrezzar} hath crushed me {Who?}, he {Nebuchadrezzar} hath made me {Who?} an empty vessel, he {Nebuchadrezzar} hath swallowed me {Who?} up like a dragon, he {Nebuchadrezzar} hath filled his {Nebuchadrezzar's} belly with my {Who's?} delicates, he {Nebuchadrezzar} hath cast me {Who?} out. -- {These comments "{ ... }" by Askakido in working up a derived understanding of the text. The question become who this "me" is referring to, and I have to back track through the text until I find the proper noun in the Text for that pronoun in this place.} Perhaps this will help someone else in attempting to get a clearer understanding of the Text at hand by using such an apparatus or device. I know this is a bit more that one will want to do in a forum thread's posting (usually), but it can come in handy for one's own working through such a Biblical Text and any thing one might have written down for later reference for their own developing understanding. Have fun and enjoy.
  7. The m*a*g*i*c of ancient BABEL's talisman (so to speak) has a staff, upon that staff are as if were, three long Claws. One Claw is "Compound Interest," One Claw is "Fractional Reserve Banking," One Claw is "Floating International Currency Exchanges." Go back to the ruins of Babylon and Ur and you will find among its clay tablets that have now been revealed and their presence in museums which have been translated into various and sundry languages and in them will be found the mathematic formula for all three of these claws, intended to destroy the economies of all peoples planet wide. But even these three are not the whole story. Now perhaps you will understand why Jesus drove the bankers out of the House of the Temple of God. He did not kick them out of Jerusalem, at that time, but he did drive them out of the House of the Temple of God that was in Jerusalem.
  8. That city on Seven Hills was and is Jerusalem. That is why the Vatican did the Crusades nearly a thousand years ago, to have Jerusalem so it, the Vatican, could have its Kingdom of Jerusalem. And that is why so many want it now. This is why G.W.B. invoked the "Whirl Wind" to start the New Crusades, at the 'suggestion' of the Vatican during September 2001. The Vatican wants Jerusalem back. The Title of the current King of Spain holds the 'official' Title of "King of Jerusalem" of the clandestine Holy Roman Empire -- it is not dead, it is acting "underground'. And if it takes the total destruction of the United States of America and the complete desolation of the People of the United States of America, the very last man, women and child within the United States, then so be, in the hands of a daughter of Mystery Babylon as far she is concerned. But Jerusalem is still spiritually Sodom and Egypt, the city where our Lord, Jesus Christ was crucified, and Jerusalem is still a city with seven hills. Jesus did not die in or on a hill of the Vatican nor even one the seven hills of the city of Rome.
  9. The first usage of the term for "city" in the Bible in the Old Testament and in it it says it was built by Cain for Enoch his son, Cain's Son, Enoch. This is not the other Enoch which was say to be "seventh from Adam" along the lines of Seth, a brother himself of Cain. This Enoch was second generation from Adam. Further more one of the Sons of God in Genesis Six is ADAM. Adam's children were likewise sons of God -- in that sense Cain, Abel, and Seth were sons of a god, that god being Adam. Hence the sons of Adam went unto their sisters there having been at least two daughters born to Adam and Eve. Their sisters likewise been termed as daughters of a god, Adam. (see Luke chapter Three, read the whole thing.) Adam was fallen. Eve was fallen, Cain was fallen, Abel was fallen, Seth was fallen and their sisters were all fallen. These were all Fallen Ones, hence the Nephilim . No need for any fallen angels except the ones that had illegally 'migrated and" left their 'proper place' and went to other places, these fallen angels. God never calls any Angel by the term 'son' in the Biblical texts. For example in nuclear DNA and its total chromosomes' sense with only 1 error in /3,000,000,000 base-pairs = 0.000000033% error in the single genome of Adam (and Eve) is defect enough to fubar themselves and in their offspring and become defective for that age too, and this age, some more than others, but all defective. The 'copying' errors of the genome of man-kind increases to this day. The fewer the copy errors and mutations the more one can hope to become Re-known among the population, then before the Flood and since that Flood even to this day. Among fallen man-kind there are those that are trying to use genetic engineering principles to make and form a human genome that exceeds the purity of that which Adam had when he was first made and formed before his own fall -- in effect trying to a do better job that the one Almighty God did with Adam. This too is an effort of Mystery Babylon. It is hopeless for Adam-kind without "the Promised Seed of the Woman," as her ovules ("eggs") and they are only a part of the flesh of Adam and Eve. Jesus took only part of the flesh of Mary, and the flesh was in her that Ovum and only part of Ovum's genome. Tell me again how Jesus comes in the flesh, the first body? He was created, made, and formed of the dust of the earth, just as Adam and Eve were. and by the same Creator for his flesh and soul for his first birth. Almost all of the ancient Christians got it wrong and have it wrong, the Apostles did not. And so did and have of the Jews. And so did and have the Gentiles. (IMHO, yet myself? I am like you, learning more, so I must endeavor to stay humble.)
  10. It is in all eastern nations as well. The motif of the "drakon" is a big clue that Mystery Babylon is in all of the East and in all the West, in all of the North and in all of the South... at all the "four quarters of the earth".
  11. I find to be aligning with your last statement, ("The complete description of Mystery Babylon as laid in the Bible does not fit the Vatican."), however it might be seen that a part of the Vatican is of one of the Daughters of BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF WHORES AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Of the Rev 17:5 KJV's "harlot" is in the Greek of that "halot" is πόρνη -- porne -- which can be translated as either harlot or whore they seem to be synonyms. If this BABYLON THE GREAT be a mother which has some daughters (two or more) that are whores, then who are the daughters that have not gone into whore-dom or are there even any that have not? Are there to be seen only two daughters at the most of BABYLON THE GREAT? Has SHE taught all of her daughters to go a`whoring? And have they learned well to do HER pleasure? Who then is BABYLON Herself... was BABYLON itself ever married in the figure ad if so, Who is HER husband? Deep Thought... much room for much speculation -- few texts and few tests to back them up, if any at all. Remembering that the physical City of Babylon (in ruins now in Iraq) was destroyed in 600 A.D. Alexander the Great built his first World Capital there of the Grecian Empire. And even in the 1st Century A.D. that physical City of Babylon was still in use as a city. Something to remember when dealing with the entire topic. The final prophecy of the destruction of the physical City of Babylon was no later than 99 A.D. (according to almost 'everyone' scholarly), yet the so called gods and goddesses had their temples (some of which were in ruins) even at the late date of first "days" of 600 A.D. The Romans had never successfully conquered the physical City of Babylon -- if I have not been miss-led. Mohammed did! Nonetheless, the doctrines of the Priests and Priestesses of Babylon the Great, taught their people Her doctrine very well. And their collective doctrine remains to this very day though more obscurely now with the passage of time -- and yet long ago its doctrines went literally World Wide, that is to say, Planet Wide even at the time of Abraham's arrival being born in Ur of the Chaldeans it was already there. Her time limited spirit and psyche is still with us all, all of mankind. Chomp, chomp, chomp...
  12. It could precisely be said that a part of the Vatican is but only one of the daughters of that Mystery Babylon. Mystery Babylon has many other Daughters. The wise-man reads and studies the Book of Hosea in depth and of the United Kingdom of Israel and the civil war that happened to split is up into two kingdoms, a Northern Alliance and Southern Alliance. This Northern Alliance was termed after that civil war started The Kingdom of Israel (not to be confused with the United Kingdom of Israel) and the Southern Alliance was termed as The Kingdom of Judah. The peoples and leaders of the later Kingdom of Israel were a`whoring after the gods of the empire of Assyria, and "She" could be thought of as, "The Whore of Assyria". This would be applied to the people of that Kingdom of Israel, and that people's leaders, up to its Priests (a part of Levi), its false Prophets, its Judges, its Princes, up to its King -- its tribes of, 1.) Reuben, 2.) Gad, 3.) Aser, 4.) Nepthalim, 5.) Ephraim, 6.) Manasses, 7.) Simeon, 8.) Issachar, 9.) Zabulon, 10.) Dan and part of Levi (which was not counted as a Tribe at that time). And her sister, the then Kingdom of Judah then also went go about a`whoring after the gods of Babylon, hence that Kingdom of Judah would rightly, in her whoring, to be termed as, "The Whore of Babylon." This term, "The Whore of Babylon" would then be applied to the other two tribes of the children of Israel, 1.) Judah, and 2.) Benjamin, and the other part of Levi (which was not counted as a Tribe at that time.) Why are both seen as Whores? Because both the Kingdom of Israel had been in a figure of speech religiously Married to GOD, and the Kingdom of Judah (her sister) were also still Married to GOD. Both sisters were committing adultery against their mutual Husband. However, the LORD, decided at the time of Assyrian Captivity of the Kingdom of Israel, to make a full divorce of that part of overall Israel, the Kingdom of Israel. And then later kicks The Kingdom of Judah also out of HIS Land of Canaan -- it was GOD's particular special LAND. So both the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah was kicked out of God's Land of Canaan, yet the Kingdom of Judah as a people were not completely divorced by GOD. Both the people and their leaders of the Kingdom of Israel and the people and their leaders of the Kingdom of Judah can both in their collective be seen as a part of the meaning of the earlier meaning of the term, Israel. Not all of ISRAEL was as a Faithful Wife of GOD (in a figure of speech), but not all of ISRAEL was an Unfaithful Wife of GOD. Some of ISRAEL were faithful and some of ISRAEL were unfaithful. It is the same case right up to 2017 A.D. So now we have a Dis-associated Personality of Israel into two different Personalities and Mind-Sets. One Persona is the FAITHFUL of ISRAEL and the other Persona is the UNFAITHFUL of ISRAEL. The Faithful of Israel are today, in the Christian view, those of ISRAEL that have accepted Jesus Christ as the true Messiah of ISRAEL. The Unfaithful of Israel are today, those of ISRAEL that had or have rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah of ISRAEL, and these are those of the spirit of an anti-christ. Now, in 2017 A.D., this group, the Unfaithful of Israel are collectively deemed and called by the term or label: The Whore of Babylon. This helps to understand who the Whore of Babylon is today in 2017 A.D. Without a deep understanding of the Book of Hosea, one ignoring it will mis-apply its precepts, principles, and understanding, to the Book of Daniel and bring great mis-understanding to the task of understanding the prophecies embedded in that Book of Daniel -- and end up getting Daniel 9:26-27 bass-awkwards. In My Humble Opinion.
  13. First, I implore my brothers and sisters to begin using a fuller citation in scripture discussions, Book, Chapter, and then the Verses. Our online Bible software libraries and databases are often leaving out the Book and Chapter information of Biblical citations and references when people go about to copy and then paste into our online discussions. These faulty implementations of the makers of the online Biblical Software that are in their implements are not of excellent service to any of us nor even themselves any great service but rather a minor dis-service. Hence I make such an imploring: Book, Chapter, Verse(s) & Version. I do not demand here but nearly beg for it for our discussions. For instance, someone posted the "citation" about, while giving a verse this that one did not tell which Book nor Chapter this "citation" is from. Its not the poster's fault so much as the authors of the databases used in the online Softwares' implimentation. Lack of such more proper citation is in my view a subtle unintentional form of obscurity. Can we do better? For instance: (Rev 17:8 KJV) The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. That citation: "8The beast that you saw was, and now is no more, but is about to come up out of the abyss and go to its destruction." Seems to be coming from some English Version of Rev 17:8. Am I correct? Yet, which English Version? Not to nick-pick at all but to exhort and provide some clarity. Secondly, many need to realize or discover that the Greek of this English version was said to have been written sometime in 90-95 A.D., others say even as early as 66 A.D. -- but the point I am makeing is that it was written in the 1st Century A.D. at least 1,922 years ago. Its three verbs were in its Koine Greek a past tense, another present-tense, and another future-tense, meaning its present-tense was present-tense 1,922 year ago, now it is very much Past Tense -- the "was" and the "is" of that verse are long past now. But we cannot necessarily say the same of its "is about to come" which might well still be in part of 2017 A.D. in the Future. Thank ye for yer patience.
  14. What marks the begining?

    Are there TWO different events and times of the happening of "the abomination of desolation?" In the Gospel of Mark we find. But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: -- (Mar 13:14 KJV) In that verse, Who is Jesus speaking to explicitly? Who is this "ye"? Who does this pronoun "ye", a second person plural, refer to in resolving or back substitution of thin pronoun, "ye", into a Noun or series of Nouns? And which Noun or Nouns? And in its context?
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