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Rothbard

A 50-Point Case for the SPHERE Earth

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It's time to put forth the BEST proofs of the spherical Earth. 

Point 1.  Photographs of the Earth From Space that Show a Beautiful Bright Blue Ball.

Of course, NASA admits that there really weren't any close-up photographs of the Earth from 1972 to 2012 despite having thousands of satellites in position that could have taken the photograph.  Surprisingly, NASA also admitted that the famous "Blue Marble" photograph was nothing more than a manufactured image to "match people's expectations." ("Then we wrapped the flat map around a ball. My part was integrating the surface, clouds, and oceans to match people’s expectations of how Earth looks from space. That ball became the famous Blue Marble." http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/about/people/RSimmon.html).  Nevertheless, there's gotta be a least one photograph that's real, I mean that new one with the "SEX" in the clouds is definitely real.  Watch at 0:50:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc7FvDnKEGc

At the very least, the Japanese and Chinese wouldn't be lying, right?

Point 2.  My Teacher Tells Me It's So.

Every classroom has a globe and we've all learned the mantra, "In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue."  Only idiotic peasants thought Columbus would fall off of the edge and we're not idiotic peasants, right?  In addition to many explorers, like Magellan, we have countless airline routes that take people around the world.  Maybe those same routes can be logically be explained as just circular patterns on a flat earth, but that doesn't matter because I learned the Columbus mantra when I was kid and I don't want to be stupid.

Point 3.  You Can See the Curvature from an Airplane; the Red Bull Jumper and High-Altitude Weather Balloons Also Show a Curvature.

Look at the videos of the Red Bull jumper (Felix Baumgartner) and high-altitude balloons that show a curvature.  If planes have the right curved window, you can even see a curvature at 33,000 feet.  A fish-eye lens, what the hell is that?  It doesn't matter that the Felix Baumgartner footage shows a curvature that alternates between convex and concave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHtvDA0W34I), or that the horizon is flat when they open Felix's capsule, or that other high-altitude balloons show no curvature at 130,000 feet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg).  Let's just concentrate on those videos that fit the official paradigm and we can keep our ball theory alive. 

Point 4.  Eratosthenes.

Eratosthenes (276-194 BC) was a Greek astronomer who lived in what is now called Libya.  According, to Wikipedia, "[Eratosthenes] had heard that in Syene the Sun was directly overhead at the summer solstice whereas in Alexandria it still cast a shadow. Using the differing angles the shadows made as the basis of his trigonometric calculations he estimated a circumference of around 250,000 stades .... Note that Eratosthenes could only measure the circumference of the Earth by assuming that the distance to the Sun is so great that the rays of sunlight are essentially parallel."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

In other words, 200 years before Jesus, Eratosthenes "heard" the Sun was overhead in a distant city, while in Alexandria it still cast a shadow.  Wow!  I'm convinced.  Who needs experimentation with high tech equipment.

Point 5.  The Lunar Eclipse.

Even though a lunar eclipse somehow has a reddish hue that is somehow created by red sunrises and sunsets (no explanation required), and even though eclipses can occur when both the Sun and Moon are above the horizon (a geometric impossibility), the lunar eclipse looks curved and so it must be a spherical Earth.  Duh.

Point 6.  Shadows and Sticks Can Prove Curvature.

Well, we don't actually need to see this performed, but shadows of sticks can show the curvature of the Earth.  The same effects are produced on a flat earth with a Sun at approximately 3,000 miles up - but that doesn't matter because everyone knows that flat earthers are crazy.

Point 7.  Foucault's Pendulum.

Ever seen one of those pendulums dangling from the ceiling in a museum?  Well, it may not be moving, or it's going the wrong direction, or moving too fast, but that Foucault's Pendulum somehow proves the rotating Earth because your museum tells you so.  Of course, nothing else on Earth can experience the movement of the Earth except for the pendulum and those actions related to the Coriolis Effect (but the spinning Earth has no effect on airplanes, wind, bullets, artillerymen, etc).

Point 8.  The Coriolis Effect.

The spinning ball may have no effect on flight times going east and west, but the spinning ball still manages to create the Coriolis Effect.  Essentially, storms seem to move clockwise in the northern hemisphere and counter-clockwise in the southern hemisphere.  How this works on a ball that is tilted at 23.4 degrees along the equator - who knows or even why this deflection would even happen doesn't matter.  You can also ignore the more logical explanation proffered by flat earthers that the effect is caused by the Sun and Moon traversing in a circular motion around the equator which causes a deflection in the atmosphere. 

Point 9.  Ships Sink Into the Horizon.

According to one pro-sphere article, "If you’ve been next to a port lately, or just strolled down a beach and stared off vacantly into the horizon, you might have, perhaps, noticed a very interesting phenomenon: approaching ships do not just 'appear' out of the horizon (like they should have if the world was flat), but rather emerge from beneath the sea." http://www.smarterthanthat.com/astronomy/top-10-ways-to-know-the-earth-is-not-flat/. But you better ignore those high-zoom cameras that show you that the boat isn't sinking below the horizon but is disappearing into the atmosphere.  What about the hundreds of photographs of objects that should be thousands of feet below the curvature?  Well, that's just refraction, which enables a spherical Earth to appear flat.  Somehow refraction also does that at 121,000 feet up as well, but no one has a plausible explanation for that yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awCx5ob04ZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gd38USZ0vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg

Point 10.  Other Planets are Spherical.

We've all seen the models of the solar system in our classrooms since early childhood.  Because we know Earth is a "planet" (we know that because NASA says so), then we know that Earth must look like the other planets out there.  It's only circular.  Of course, we couldn't imagine the Earth as anything other than what we saw on Star Trek and other movies, and so we can just laugh at the Earth as a Frisbee flying through space - that's just stupid and there's no other possible understanding of the Earth than what we have seen in movies a million times.  The other planets may look like balls of changing light from our viewpoint on the ground, but NASA has supplied us with a big assortment of paintings of distant planets which certainly prove what those planets look like up close.  NASA wouldn't fake anything (excluding those photographs of the Earth which were admittedly faked to "match people's expectations").

Point 11.  Gravity.

Gravity is presumably real (although it can't be proven in a lab or measured with instrumentation) and so the Earth must be spherical.  Otherwise, gravity wouldn't work at bending lakes, oceans, and rivers for thousands of miles or keep us from being flung from the spinning ball.  We're on a spinning ball; so what else keeps us from being flung into space but gravity.  Don't worry about the fact that there's no changes in weight from the Arctic to the equator where the ball spins from 100 mph to 1,020 mph.  Gravity counteracts changes in centripetal forces or changes in rotational speeds because we live on a spinning ball.  Don't worry about questions regarding how gravity adjusts for the ball that is moving towards our feet at 67,000 mph and then changes 12 hours later to moving away from us at 67,000 mph - gravity takes care of it without you feeling it, because what else explains why you fall from cliffs.  Got it - now, shut up.

Point 12.  The Moon Landings.

The Apollo moon landings were definitely real because our 60's technology was amazing and cannot be matched with today's computers.  It's been 47 years since Apollo 11, but we were just so much smarter back then.  Just look at it - it couldn't have been faked - look at how real it is:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25zeINY8AF0

We even had the technology back then to zoom out and pan up synchronously with the blast off of the lunar lander from the Moon by remote control 234,000 miles away and then wirelessly beamed the footage back to NASA.  If we only had that technology 40 years later, just imagine how great communications could be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4yYZh1U908

Point 13.  The Changing Stars.

Stars seem to change as you move along our presumed sphere - therefore, it's a ball.  Ignore the fact that this is just as possible on a flat Earth.  Also ignore the fact, that we should have major changes in stars every six months as the Earth goes from one side of the Sun and travels 186 million miles to the other side with the Sun in the middle. 

Point 14.  No Horizon on a Flat Earth.

Forget everything you know about perspective - we shouldn't have a horizon on a flat Earth because some spherical theorists say so without any proof.  Ignore dust, pollutants, water vapor, and other gasses in the atmosphere, and you would be able to see Spain from New York on a flat earth. 

Point 15.  The ISS.

I see something in my telescope that looks like those pictures of the International Space Station and so it must be real notwithstanding the obvious permed hair, bubbles, obviously fake CGI, harnesses for faking flotation, many camera mistakes, etc.

Point 16.  Satellites.

I have a GPS in my cellphone that is ran through cellphone towers but that proves somehow that we have satellites in space.  I have seen a few lights move across the nighttime sky (of the 10,000 satellites up there) and that also proves to me that we have satellites even though high-altitude airplanes can produce the same effect.  Who cares whether the satellites often criss-cross and don't follow any geostationary orbit (i.e., look stationary in the sky); the many paintings of satellites is absolute proof for me.   

 

What other spherical arguments can you add?  I didn't quite make it to 50, sorry.

 

 

 

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Point 17.  Pictures of the edge or it's not flat

Even though the 90% or so of the Earth we can map, video tape, measure, and see with our own eyes is pretty much flat (besides various changes on land), unless we see a photograph of this edge, the 90% we can see that's flat, is not flat.

I may be confusing their debunks with their proofs?  lol

I'll have to compile some to add after further thought.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Rothbard said:

What other spherical arguments can you add?  I didn't quite make it to 50, sorry.

Got me, Mr. Baiter. :chuckle:

If you can't prove it a sphere by a simple home experiment (as you can FE) then the basis is relying on scientists, but they are mere men, NOT gods. I'm not sure it's totally flat but I am sure it cannot be a sphere....at least the ground and water beneath our feet. That mostly level surface may well be surrounded by a sphere but not the one from NASA!

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You spend a lot of time on this stuff.

But, your post is misleading.

 

I will just address the very first one.

The famous "Blue Marble" was the original photograph taken during the Apollo 17 mission in December, 1972. It was taken with a film camera (70mm Hasselblad) and is unedited. This is the famous and widely distributed image.

The "Blue Marble" you refer to was the one created in 2012 from composites taken from low Earth orbit. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_history.php  There are and were other photographs taken from higher orbit that show the full disk of Earth, just none released by NASA. Most satellites are not in a high enough orbit to capture the entire disk of the Earth. Here is one that was: http://givetheworld.com/aboutEchoStar11.asp

 

The half truths and general tone will put people off, rather than enticing them to learn more.

 

 

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24 minutes ago, VonLud said:

You spend a lot of time on this stuff.

But, your post is misleading.

 

I will just address the very first one.

The famous "Blue Marble" was the original photograph taken during the Apollo 17 mission in December, 1972. It was taken with a film camera (70mm Hasselblad) and is unedited. This is the famous and widely distributed image.

The "Blue Marble" you refer to was the one created in 2012 from composites taken from low Earth orbit. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_history.php  There are and were other photographs taken from higher orbit that show the full disk of Earth, just none released by NASA. Most satellites are not in a high enough orbit to capture the entire disk of the Earth. Here is one that was: http://givetheworld.com/aboutEchoStar11.asp

 

The half truths and general tone will put people off, rather than enticing them to learn more.

 

 

How do you not see the demon lookin creature with a baby flying into him and a lady flying away in the "blue marble" REAL PICTURE OF EARTH!!

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http://i61.tinypic.com/2mnjjg2.jpg

O WAIT THIS IS ANOTHER "PICTURE" OF EARTH FROM 1972.

SAME f***ING CREATURE STEALIMG THE SOUL OF THE BABY FROM THAT LADY!!

ANSWER ME THIS?????????HOW CAN THE CLOUDS 40 YRS APART MAKE THIS DEMONIC SHAPE.BECAUSE THERE IS SOME f***SHIT GOING ON 

A guy video taped a tour he took of the nasa museum.i screen shot every picture of the earth from the museum.every photo is filled with demonic faces EVERY f***IN ONE!!!!

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15 hours ago, yaknow said:

http://i57.tinypic.com/2w3rhv4.jpg

I mean look at this.in the middle looks like theres a cave opening the size of africa on earth.and to the right of that.thats a flucked up face

How did you embed those pics

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_04kZGR_ltmE/Ssj9_izSc8I/AAAAAAAAExA/_6MZA8gkh0A/s1600/Astronaut_Harrison_%27Jack%27_Schmitt,_American_Flag,_and_Earth_%28Apollo_17_EVA-1%29.jpg

My pastes are just links.

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1 hour ago, yaknow said:

Upload to tinypic and then it says for forums and message boards copy this url

Yeah, I figured. I have a Photbucket and some other account for that. Bother. One More Thing.

 

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