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Vaping really isn’t as harmful for your cells as smoking

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“E-cigarettes can cause cancer”; “Vaping ‘no better’ than smoking”: headlines last week challenged the idea that electronic cigarettes are safer than conventional cigarettes, after findings emerged that their vapour damaged and killed human cells.

Jessica Wang-Rodriguez, a head and neck cancer specialist at the University of California at San Diego, and her team found that cells lining human organs sustained up to twice the DNA damage seen in unexposed cells. They were also five to 10 times more likely to wither and die than unexposed cells even if the vapour contained no nicotine, the addictive ingredient in conventional and most electronic cigarettes.

“Without the nicotine, the damage is slightly less, but still statistically significant compared with control cells,” says Wang-Rodriguez, who led the research.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28723-vaping-really-isnt-as-harmful-for-your-cells-as-smoking/

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Just got my first vap for xmas(thanks brother!)i have only had 3 cigs in about a month!!i feel better hittin a vap then smoking.first few days i was coughin a lung up

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There's a huge conspiracy around vaping. I've got first hand experience in the FDA's shenanigans and I can tell you that vaping is the only thing that has worked for many, many people to actually quit smoking. There's billions and billions in it if they can kill the industry the way it exists right now and give it over to big pharma and FDA regulations. It will kill hundreds of small entrepreneur's businesses and livelihoods. It's for the "children". I've not seen any little children vaping, but I've seen teens using vapes instead of smoking.  I'd rather see that than them smoking cigs. I've researched the vape juices and the vaporizers themselves, I've got 2 sitting on my desk right now. People lose their smoker's cough within days or a few weeks of vaping instead of smoking, depending on how long they've smoked. 

The FDA and big pharma has been after this market for years now. I first found out about ecigs in 2009. Anything I try, that involves ingestion like that, I research thoroughly and as far as I"m concerned if you don't vape Vanilla flavored juice you're going to be helping yourself, vanillas are not good for you. 

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It's MOBSTER RULE - Rough them up, make them pay, or run them out of town. In the case of homemade - Homeopathic Doctors and what not, its Mob killings instead. 

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2 minutes ago, DarkKnightNomeD said:

It's MOBSTER RULE - Rough them up, make them pay, or run them out of town. In the case of homemade - Homeopathic Doctors and what not, its Mob killings instead. 

The people who sell vapes are already paying taxes just like everyone else, but that's not enough to just simply extort their labor, they want them to be jobless and take the whole thing away from them and start up a whole industry run by big tobacco, big pharma and the FDA.  Now that is messed up!  Stealing a business model and making laws about it that make it possible only for the mega corporations to run and profit from it.  My guess is their product wouldn't even work, like their gum and patches and chantix (chantix makes some people lose their shit or get severely depressed, sometimes it works to stop the cigs and sometimes it doesn't, I saw my friend use chantix and she was in really bad shape mentally for months when on that crap). They are purely evil.

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Back when camping started the England Medical journal put out some bad reports and were saying that camping was worse then smoking. A lot or news stations ran with it. However recently they recanted the study and did another one and actually found it to be 95% safer than cigarettes and even tho they recanted it and republished all the info the news is still hanging onto the old story. I can tell you from personal experience that vamping is much better. I quit smoking and now vape and notice a huge difference in my breathing and my physical fitness. 

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Horse shit...

This is a prime example of BIG TOBACCO and their lost revenue, and having someone lie their asses off for them because they want to put the better alternative out of business, and to be outlawed unless it is basically sold by them. Not the little guys trying to get people help, and away from their irradiated + 6000 toxic chemicals all meant to kill you dead. Bill Cooper said in his book "Behold A Pale Horse" that BIG TOBACCO was putting uranium laced soil on the plants to make them even deadlier, along with tons of other biohazards and toxic carcinogens. F*CK BIG TOBACCO AND THEIR LOBBYING W H O R E S......

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All this crap against vaping, it never stops. The New England medical journal years ago did a so called study and the media has ran with it since show in vaping wasn't better. But since they redid the study and showed it to be 95% safer, yet they still don't quote it. Personally I've been vaping for two years. Since I have quit smoking and feel oh so much better especially when I work out, I have my wind back. I can run farther and train harder and fight harder with out loosing my breath as easily as I did when smoking a pack a day. Also a friend of mine says vaping saved his life, he had some rare type of throat cancer. His doc told him that by vaping and stoping smoking before he even knew the cancer was there may have slowed it down and once found allowed the docs to do their magic and getting rid of it. Anyway these are just personal stories and by no means scientific. I just see the negotiable stories as bs, as long as you learn about it and be safe with them you should be good to go. 

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