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Real Muslim reformation? Or another smoke screen?

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Well, buried in the list at the bottom of Foxnews main page was an interesting story about how many Muslims in America say C.A.I.R. does NOT speak for them!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/18/dont-speak-for-me-new-muslim-groups-reject-cair-representation.html?intcmp=hplnws

"Within hours of a terror attack that left 14 dead in Southern California, the nation’s best-known Islamic advocacy group held a press conference with the killers’ family – and Muslims around the country cringed.

In the days following the Dec. 2 attack in San Bernardino, Council for American-Islamic Relations representatives partially blamed U.S. policy for terrorist attacks, accused gunman Syed Rizwan Farook’s co-workers of making fun of his beard and sought to downplay comments by Farook’s father linking him to ISIS. Like Muslims throughout the U.S., CAIR officials condemned the attack, but too often with what sounded to critics like subtle caveats."

"CAIR is a primary obstacle in the effort of many honest American Muslims who recognize our need to own up and lead long-overdue reforms against the root causes of radicalization: Islamism and its separatism,” said Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, an ex-U.S. Navy officer who founded and heads the American Islamic Forum for Democracy."

"For would-be reformers like Jasser, reclaiming the faith begins with taking back control of Islam’s image. He and other increasingly outspoken Muslim-Americans say true moderates must be honest and unequivocal in condemning acts of violence carried out in the name of Islam. Most of all, they are tired of the Washington-based nonprofit claiming to speak for them."

"CAIR’s information is marketed and packaged so it seems that they speak for all of us, but they don’t speak for me and my group,” said Raheel Raza, president of the Council for Muslims Facing Tomorrow. “CAIR does not and has never represented the majority Muslim voices which are as diverse as Muslims in America."

 
"l of us, but they don’t speak for me and my group,” said Raheel Raza, president of the Council for Muslims Facing Tomorrow. “CAIR does not and has never represented the majority Muslim voices which are as diverse as Muslims in America.”

Muslims Facing Tomorrow is one of more than a dozen moderate Islamic groups from the U.S., Canada and European countries that have joined the Muslim Reform Movement, an alliance put together by Jasser.

The Muslim Reform Movement rebukes violent jihad, advocates for a separation of “mosque and state," and celebrates individual freedom, human rights and gender equality, and secular democracy, according to its founders, who also reject the idea of an Islamic State and its Sharia Law.

“We are in a battle for the soul of Islam, and an Islamic renewal must defeat the ideology of Islamism,” read a statement from the group, which formed following the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris and met for the first time in Washington just two days after the San Bernardino attack."

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CAIR does not publicly support an Islamic State, Sharia Law in the U.S. or acts of violence. But moderate critics from within the faith say CAIR’s reflexive tendency to raise moral equivalence arguments or warn of backlashes against Muslims even as it condemns terror attacks does them no favors. In addition, CAIR’s past links to Hamas, having been named an unindicted co-conspirator in a 2007 federal trial involving the Palestinian terrorist group, make it easy for critics to doubt its sincerity – and by unfair extension, that of other Muslims.

Jasser goes even further, questioning the true agenda of CAIR.

Entire Article at link below:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/18/dont-speak-for-me-new-muslim-groups-reject-cair-representation.html?intcmp=hplnws

 

While this sounds really good, they still won't answer the important questions "Do you condemn ANY of Mohammed's actions in his life?" Because to any major, by traditional or members, ANY claiming that ANYTHING Mohammed did or said is straight Out, and anyone who does this is labeled an Apostate, considered WORSE than JEWS and slated for death by real Muslims.

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But.... the administration has confirmed that Islam means peace!  I find your story full of falsehood.  sarcasm off

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13 minutes ago, Walk Softly said:

But.... the administration has confirmed that Islam means peace!  I find your story full of falsehood.  sarcasm off

:rofl:

In the end, I believe that these "reformers" will learn what their own religion actually Says, and realize they *can't* reform it, because to do so would reject it's main tenants.

It is good, at least, that some of their "Backslidden" members do not agree with C.A.I.R. blaming America for Islam's own evil deeds, constant justification. Let's hope they continue to learn what their own belief system is "all about" and Leave it?

 

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It sounds like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is trying to confuse the Christians.

These Islamic organizations are everywhere and number in the hundreds? Thousands? 

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Just now, YourMom2 said:

It sounds like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is trying to confuse the Christians.

These Islamic organizations are everywhere and number in the hundreds? Thousands? 

Popping up all OVER - they realize that CAIR has been Outted and scrambling to distance themselves from it. So they have to come up with new cover-up groups. *SIGH*

Speaking of coverups, this family in Minneapolis is outraged after the FBI raided their house, looking for their son, a suspected terrorist. Poor Muslims, they had smoke damage from the smoke grenades, had to replace some doors.

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/12/17/minneapolis-family-questions-fbi-tactics-home-raid-isis-terror-recruiting

WHaaaWaaah :f7TRnPw:

 

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3 minutes ago, BlueHawK said:

Popping up all OVER - they realize that CAIR has been Outted and scrambling to distance themselves from it. So they have to come up with new cover-up groups. *SIGH*

Speaking of coverups, this family in Minneapolis is outraged after the FBI raided their house, looking for their son, a suspected terrorist. Poor Muslims, they had smoke damage from the smoke grenades, had to replace some doors.

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/12/17/minneapolis-family-questions-fbi-tactics-home-raid-isis-terror-recruiting

WHaaaWaaah :f7TRnPw:

 

That article was written by his best friend, Mukhtar Ibrahim. :lol_alpha:

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8 minutes ago, YourMom2 said:

That article was written by his best friend, Mukhtar Ibrahim. :lol_alpha:

:rofl: Undoubtedly a trustworthy source ;-)

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