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Update - House passes -VETO PROOF- bill to essentially halt Syrian refugees coming to US

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House votes for bill making Syrian refugee admission almost impossible

https://www.rt.com/usa/322747-house-senate-syrian-refugees/ - Published time: 19 Nov, 2015 18:52

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The US House of Representatives has voted on a bill that sharply increases the security screening of Syrian and Iraqi refugees, effectively blocking President Barack Obama's refugee settlement plan.

Following the terrorist attacks in Paris, opposition to hosting Syrian refugees in the US has grown in many states. The US was planning to receive 30,000 refugees from Syria in 2016, after hundreds of thousands flooded Europe this summer. Now 31 states  say they would put a halt on their resettlement or even stop it completely, citing terror concerns.

Two of the terrorists involved in the November 13 Paris terror attacks got into Europe as refugees.

House Resolution 4038, the 'American SAFE Act of 2015', was sponsored Republican lawmakers Mike McCaul (R-Texas) and Richard Hudson (R-North Carolina). The bill requires top US security officials (FBI, Homeland Security and Director of National Intelligence) to certify that every refugee admitted to the US “does not represent a security threat,” according to McCaul, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.

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I like the idea and the principal behind it. The question (of which I will answer, because I'm pretentious) is will it be enough?

Sadly, no.

Few rotten apples are gonna spoil it for those that actually, truely, need the assist that only this great nation can provide. For those real Ref-u-Gs, my prayers are with ya. 

For all those fake Gs, well, it's the same as it's ever been. Hold breath til ya pass out. Repeat as nessicary.

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The thing all those pro- "refugee" never answer, is why are WE willing to take these people in without severe scrutiny when their neighboring countries will not. Saudi Arabia refuses to take ANY in, why? Fear of Terrorist security risks. If THEY, being Muslims themSELVES, and thereby likely more knowledgeable about the religion and political ambitions than us westerners, why should WE?

They refuse to answer that question, because it blows any pro-"refugee" arguments out of the water.

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1 minute ago, BlueHawK said:

The thing all those pro- "refugee" never answer, is why are WE willing to take these people in without severe scrutiny when their neighboring countries will not. Saudi Arabia refuses to take ANY in, why? Fear of Terrorist security risks. If THEY, being Muslims themSELVES, and thereby likely more knowledgeable about the religion and political ambitions than us westerners, why should WE?

They refuse to answer that question, because it blows any pro-"refugee" arguments out of the water.

Aw, you could've asked me direct BH. No need to be shy-guy.

The reason we are willing to take these people in is because we are a Christian Nation. And not only do we lead the world in tech, freedom (sad, ikr?) but charity as well, providing more than half of the world's contrabutions. Not the state, the people. Amazing right? See, for those that remember the mission, it's to save people for those that keep forgetting (don't worry Ultron, I gotcha patch right down here), but for those that remember the mission, we know it's this nation's duty to be a safe haven for the oppressed. And those real Ref-u-Gs need all the help they can get right now. Are the powers that want to be mixing in the nasties so people will quit this whole, "Acts of kindness" "Spirit of hope" crap, you better believe it. And it seems top be working.

That said, nothing ya got there blows my point anywhere. ^.~

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1 minute ago, Last1oftheJedi said:

Aw, you could've asked me direct BH. No need to be shy-guy.

The reason we are willing to take these people in is because we are a Christian Nation. And not only do we lead the world in tech, freedom (sad, ikr?) but charity as well, providing more than half of the world's contrabutions. Not the state, the people. Amazing right? See, for those that remember the mission, it's to save people for those that keep forgetting (don't worry Ultron, I gotcha patch right down here), but for those that remember the mission, we know it's this nation's duty to be a safe haven for the oppressed. And those real Ref-u-Gs need all the help they can get right now. Are the powers that want to be mixing in the nasties so people will quit this whole, "Acts of kindness" "Spirit of hope" crap, you better believe it. And it seems top be working.

That said, nothing ya got there blows my point anywhere. ^.~

I'd truly love to be so wonderfully trusting, but not at ANY potential risk of innocent life in my country. If these people are not worthy of trust by the most powerful Muslim-run countries of the world, do you really think WE know them better than their brothers do? Are you willing to risk Other Peoples' lives to be a good guy? If it were my OWN, I might consider it. Oh well, I can only hope I am proven wrong. Til then, sorry, skeptic when lives might be at risk.

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US House passes bill pausing Syria refugee program - AFP

House passes Syrian refugee 289-137 veto-proof majority - SEND HER ASS TO SYRIA! haha

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House passes bill suspending Syrian refugee program, boosting security; Pres. Obama has threatened to veto bill -NBC

House rebukes Obama, delivers veto-proof vote on limits for Syrian refugees

House passes bill to essentially halt Syrian refugees coming to US; bill goes to Senate; Pres. Obama previously threatened veto.

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2 minutes ago, BlueHawK said:

I'd truly love to be so wonderfully trusting, but not at ANY potential risk of innocent life in my country. If these people are not worthy of trust by the most powerful Muslim-run countries of the world, do you really think WE know them better than their brothers do? Are you willing to risk Other Peoples' lives to be a good guy? If it were my OWN, I might consider it. Oh well, I can only hope I am proven wrong. Til then, sorry, skeptic when lives might be at risk.

On many levels, there is a fine line between compassion and treason. If I decided to feed all the starving children around me while my own children starve, I am worse than the worst parent. Love can never come at someone else's expense, though perhaps our own, as you said. It's one thing to sacrifice our own lives for others, but quite another to sacrifice other people's lives without their consent. Even the Bible says that those who won't take care of their own people are worse than unbelievers. And in this case, the majority of "refugees" are well fed, have phones, and throw away the gifts of food and clothing donated to their "plight". While we all know that most people are unwitting pawns in the demonic games of TPTB, we are condemning our family, neighbors, and friends to death by blindly and unquestioningly allowing an invading force into our country. Pacifism is fine for a person's convictions, but they cross the line into betrayal when they stand idly by while others are oppressed. A good shepherd is kind to the sheep but intolerant and even violent to the wolves who would devour them. The key is knowing the difference. Certainly we can pray for all the lost, but that does not mean allowing them to ransack our homes, kill our families, and destroy our nation.

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House Ignores Obama’s Veto Threat, Passes Bill to Strengthen Screening Against Syrian and Iraqi Refugees With Veto-Proof Majority

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/19/house-ignores-obamas-veto-threat-passes-bill-to-strengthen-barriers-against-syrian-and-iraqi-refugees-with-veto-proof-majority/

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"CNN’s Deirdre Walsh reported that testimony from White House and Department of Homeland Security officials prior to the vote actually “lost votes” for the Obama administration as several Democrats supported the bill.

The measure, which in effect would suspend admissions of Syrian and Iraqi refugees, would require the FBI to conduct background checks on people coming to the U.S. from those countries. It would oblige the heads of the FBI and Homeland Security Department and the director of national intelligence to certify to Congress that each refugee “is not a threat to the security of the United States."

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Its crazy that a bill has to be passed to make sure we are doing what we should have already been doing.A LENGTHY BACKROUND CHECK ON REFUGEES!!The U.S is built by the sweat of people fleeing persacution.BUT these refugees arent fleeing persacution.they are fleeing a warzone and their neighbors wont take them because their worried about terrorists!!so we would be dumb as fluck not to have a sound backround check process.if you pass!WELCOME TO THE U.S!!

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Another fluckin thing.a non-VIOLENT FELON CAN NOT obtain a gun permit.BUT if u are on THE TERRORIST WATCH LIST YOU CAN GET A GUN PERMIT.WTF IS THAT!!!

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Passed, 289 to 137 - H.R. 4038: American SAFE Act of 2015

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/h643

 

114th CONGRESS
1st Session
 
 
H. R. 4038
 

To require that supplemental certifications and background investigations be completed prior to the admission of certain aliens as refugees, and for other purposes.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
November 17, 2015

Mr. McCaul (for himself and Mr. Hudson) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


A BILL

To require that supplemental certifications and background investigations be completed prior to the admission of certain aliens as refugees, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “American Security Against Foreign Enemies Act of 2015” or as the “American SAFE Act of 2015”.

SEC. 2. Review of refugees to identify security threats to the United States.

 

(a) Background investigation.—In addition to the screening conducted by the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall take all actions necessary to ensure that each covered alien receives a thorough background investigation prior to admission as a refugee. A covered alien may not be admitted as a refugee until the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation certifies to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence that each covered alien has received a background investigation that is sufficient to determine whether the covered alien is a threat to the security of the United States.

(b) Certification by unanimous concurrence.—A covered alien may only be admitted to the United States after the Secretary of Homeland Security, with the unanimous concurrence of the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Director of National Intelligence, certifies to the appropriate Congressional Committees that the covered alien is not a threat to the security of the United States.

(c) Inspector general review of certifications.—The Inspector General of the Department of Homeland Security shall conduct a risk-based review of all certifications made under subsection (b) each year and shall provide an annual report detailing the findings to the appropriate Congressional Committees.

(d) Monthly report.—The Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the appropriate Congressional Committees a monthly report on the total number of applications for admission with regard to which a certification under subsection (b) was made and the number of covered aliens with regard to whom such a certification was not made for the month preceding the date of the report. The report shall include, for each covered alien with regard to whom a certification was not made, the concurrence or nonconcurrence of each person whose concurrence was required by subsection (b).

(e) Definitions.—In this Act:

(1) COVERED ALIEN.—The term “covered alien” means any alien applying for admission to the United States as a refugee who—

(A) is a national or resident of Iraq or Syria;

(B) has no nationality and whose last habitual residence was in Iraq or Syria; or

(C) has been present in Iraq or Syria at any time on or after March 1, 2011.

(2) APPROPRIATE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE.—The term “appropriate Congressional Committees” means—

(A) the Committee on Armed Services of the Senate;

(B) the Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate;

(C) the Committee on the Judiciary of the Senate;

(D) the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate;

(E) the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate;

(F) the Committee on Appropriations of the Senate;

(G) the Committee on Armed Services of the House of Representatives;

(H) the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives;

(I) the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives;

(J) the Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives;

(K) the Committee on Appropriations of the House of Representatives; and

(L) the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Representatives.


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