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I recently came across some very angry people discussing the extermination of Christianity. While I do understand that it can be classified as a horrid act committed by many non- Catholics, here's another way to look at it. 

The human species has seen hundreds and hundreds of very impressive and complex things rise to a certain occasion, only to fall in later years. The Christan, Jewish, Muslim, Athiest faith is not much different. The laws of physics in a sense do apply to human constructs, what goes up has to come down. To name a few: The Roman Empire, The British Empire, Aristocracy's monopoly over the majority of the world, French monopoly in Canada, this list should also include dead or dying faiths such as; Atenism, Mithraism, Vedism and much more. The importance I suppose of this posting is the idea that we shouldn't let these things damage who we are. Human kind has evolved throughout the ages and should continue to do so, letting go of acient beliefs may be the key. (This being said, I refer to the extermination of the belief, not of the people who believe in it)

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33 minutes ago, Roxc said:

I recently came across some very angry people discussing the extermination of Christianity. While I do understand that it can be classified as a horrid act committed by many non- Catholics, here's another way to look at it. 

The human species has seen hundreds and hundreds of very impressive and complex things rise to a certain occasion, only to fall in later years. The Christan, Jewish, Muslim, Athiest faith is not much different. The laws of physics in a sense do apply to human constructs, what goes up has to come down. To name a few: The Roman Empire, The British Empire, Aristocracy's monopoly over the majority of the world, French monopoly in Canada, this list should also include dead or dying faiths such as; Atenism, Mithraism, Vedism and much more. The importance I suppose of this posting is the idea that we shouldn't let these things damage who we are. Human kind has evolved throughout the ages and should continue to do so, letting go of acient beliefs may be the key. (This being said, I refer to the extermination of the belief, not of the people who believe in it)

It's not a bad thing to let go of beliefs, but it is a bad thing when they are forcibly taken from you, which is the case with many cultural ideals and religions from the past and the destruction of cultures in the present. Beliefs change, but usually not without force in some manner, whether it's economic devastation, social engineering or through acts of war. 

 

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I think the more you question the world around you, the more beliefs one will let go of.  My philosophy on this matter is to approach beliefs with a clean slate.  Erase everything you've been taught, and start from scratch.  I've already dropped more beliefs in this year alone than I have over the course of my entire life.  Getting to that "clean slate" of mind isn't easy however.

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Just now, Cinnamon said:

It's not a bad thing to let go of beliefs, but it is a bad thing when they are forcibly taken from you, which is the case with many cultural ideals and religions from the past and the destruction of cultures in the present. Beliefs change, but usually not without force in some manner, whether it's economic, social or through acts of war. 

 

A belief if it is pure and true is within one's self. It cannot be taken from you but can, if done right, present you with a way of proving your faith to your God which you could have never done before. It's like ripping a band aid. It hurts at first and the scar is still there, but you can either try to hide the scar or wear it proudly and let others take example from you.

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Just now, Roxc said:

A belief if it is pure and true is within one's self. It cannot be taken from you but can, if done right, present you with a way of proving your faith to your God which you could have never done before. It's like ripping a band aid. It hurts at first and the scar is still there, but you can either try to hide the scar or wear it proudly and let others take example from you.

Well, a good example I believe, is this. When Christianity and Voodoo met, those practicing Voodoo were told they could no longer do it. So they pretended to be Christians and practiced their true belief in secret. Over time, the two religions were mixed together. But again, force was part of this and it changed their belief system over time and the lines became blurred. 

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Humans did not evolve. 

Beliefs are part of our being. Loosing our beliefs over the ages has led to multiple belief systems that have splintered our souls and left us in a constant state of confusion, seeking and trying to restore the beliefs we first held. 

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4 minutes ago, Cinnamon said:

Well, a good example I believe, is this. When Christianity and Voodoo met, those practicing Voodoo were told they could no longer do it. So they pretended to be Christians and practiced their true belief in secret. Over time, the two religions were mixed together. But again, force was part of this and it changed their belief system over time and the lines became blurred. 

But that is the result of descendant and the lack of proper "education" given from parents to children. It is not the fault of Christianity (although Christianity has it's many faults) that Voodooism has mostly perished.

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1 minute ago, WhiteHorse said:

Humans did not evolve. 

Beliefs are part of our being. Loosing our beliefs over the ages has led to multiple belief systems that have splintered our souls and left us in a constant state of confusion, seeking and trying to restore the beliefs we first held. 

What do you mean humans did not evolve. Of course we have, pick up any anthropology book it'll state the changes of human evolution.

People believed that when a warrior was hurt in battle, to make an additional cut and "bleed" him would help. This method is no longer used in modern day battlefields because the human beings in charge of medicine evolved in their beliefs.

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1 minute ago, Roxc said:

But that is the result of descendant and the lack of proper "education" given from parents to children. It is not the fault of Christianity (although Christianity has it's many faults) that Voodooism has mostly perished.

Exactly right, it is not the fault of Christianity itself, it's the fault of those who thought they were above another group of people and it was their way or the highway. My point being that to change the beliefs of large numbers of people, I can't think of a change like that when it wasn't done through the forces I mentioned in my other post. 

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Just now, Cinnamon said:

Exactly right, it is not the fault of Christianity itself, it's the fault of those who thought they were above another group of people and it was their way or the highway. My point being that to change the beliefs of large numbers of people, I can't think of a change like that when it wasn't done through the forces I mentioned in my other post. 

Changes occur all the time. New discoveries are made every day which revolutionize the way people think.

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3 minutes ago, Roxc said:

Changes occur all the time. New discoveries are made every day which revolutionize the way people think.

I feel like I'm in a riddle. Can you cite some specific examples? I thought you were talking specifics about religious beliefs. 

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1 minute ago, Roxc said:

What do you mean humans did not evolve. Of course we have, pick up any anthropology book it'll state the changes of human evolution.

People believed that when a warrior was hurt in battle, to make an additional cut and "bleed" him would help. This method is no longer used in modern day battlefields because the human beings in charge of medicine evolved in their beliefs.

Humans were created, they do have the ability to adapt to their environment 

but we do have monkeys running the gover:chuckle:nment 

beliefs did not evolve

methodology changed with knowledge 

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