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AceMan

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Actually Capitalism isn't self absorption.

Capitalism means nobody is going to pay for your dumb ass, "socialism" is more self absorbed.... its the idea that I shouldn't have to work.

The Military isn't a self absorbed group, its every man is each other's brother, no matter where they are,  running around doing whatever you want all the time and not serving your country... is pretty self absorbed.

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Socialism isn't the idea that you shouldn't work. It's the idea that no body is left to desolate conditions as society progresses forwards. I know, it can get dirty from there. Marxisms and all that crap. But I concider myself a libtard socialist, if only because if it helps just one in ten (everyone with me now) "It's worth it!"

No one with miltary experince, either personal or even second hand thinks you get to do what you want in the army. You're told what to do, and you do it. If you don't, you're replaced, and dishonorably discharged.

What I enjoy about ya, Ace, is you bring such a oppossed vision than my own to the table, but you've never jumped my shit for playing devil's advocate with ya. For that, I respect ya. And I think you gotta find the balance. As in all things in life, it's a lil bit of both. We need Capitalism, we do. It creates in a way never before seen on the planet, not even in the Guilded Age, Renossiance, whatever have ya. But at the same time, we have humans we have to care for. We're all family, and we gotta work together to beat this system of oppression, no matter what form it takes on. Socialism can lead to evil things. Nazis proved it. Capitalism can lead to evil things, America proved it. Communism can lead to evil things, Russia proved it. So where's the line? The line is balance. That's why when the forefathers of the greatest country on earth (USA USA USA) designed it, they made sure to have a proper check and balance system. It's by removing that balance (the Fed) that it was fucked up. Before that, it ran just fine for over a century.

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Socialism isn't the idea that you shouldn't work. It's the idea that no body is left to desolate conditions as society progresses forwards. I know, it can get dirty from there. Marxisms and all that crap. But I concider myself a libtard socialist, if only because if it helps just one in ten (everyone with me now) "It's worth it!"

No one with miltary experince, either personal or even second hand thinks you get to do what you want in the army. You're told what to do, and you do it. If you don't, you're replaced, and dishonorably discharged.

What I enjoy about ya, Ace, is you bring such a oppossed vision than my own to the table, but you've never jumped my shit for playing devil's advocate with ya. For that, I respect ya. And I think you gotta find the balance. As in all things in life, it's a lil bit of both. We need Capitalism, we do. It creates in a way never before seen on the planet, not even in the Guilded Age, Renossiance, whatever have ya. But at the same time, we have humans we have to care for. We're all family, and we gotta work together to beat this system of oppression, no matter what form it takes on. Socialism can lead to evil things. Nazis proved it. Capitalism can lead to evil things, America proved it. Communism can lead to evil things, Russia proved it. So where's the line? The line is balance. That's why when the forefathers of the greatest country on earth (USA USA USA) designed it, they made sure to have a proper check and balance system. It's by removing that balance (the Fed) that it was fucked up. Before that, it ran just fine for over a century.

So NOBODY gets left behind...

NOBODY gets left behind, even if they can't afford the way America lives Today ?

NOBODY gets left behind, even if NOTHING that they did in their lives says they DESERVE anything ?

NOBODY gets left behind, even if they dropped out of School ?

NOBODY gets left behind, even if they're a low IQ moron who has his parents take care of his kid, while he goes out and makes more kids ?

lol

 

There is a lot more people out there that earned a long walk down the prison's hallway, leading to the IV bag.... than there is who actually meet the IV bag.

Luck is everywhere, and that includes the Police Station too.

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So NOBODY gets left behind...

NOBODY gets left behind, even if they can't afford the way America lives Today ?

NOBODY gets left behind, even if NOTHING that they did in their lives says they DESERVE anything ?

NOBODY gets left behind, even if they dropped out of School ?

NOBODY gets left behind, even if they're a low IQ moron who has his parents take care of his kid, while he goes out and makes more kids ?

lol

Not on my watch.

Exactly! Now ya get it ^.^ When ya got .05% owning 90% of everything, they should slow pitch so those that have less can enjoy the quality of life one expects to have in america. Someone called this belief of entitlement as an insult on me one day around here. But the fact is, the rich have a responsability to the disenfranchised. If they refuse to accept that, then they breed desent and chaos. Happens every time in history.

How do we determ the worth of a life. Alot of people think little of me, because I hold no job. But I hold up my duties as a father. I preach some the best surmon since the Mount. If I see someone in need, I aid. Is this work deserving of any level of luxury, or am I lazy for not being greedy? O.o

Some drop out because they're too damn smart for the course. Literally true. Some drop out because life kicked em in the balls. Should we punish these people, or educate them with job skills. You state we should damn them. I say we need to save em.

O.o pop shot? Cute. First, if anyone can touch my IQ I'd be in Shock and Awe. Second, my son has autism and mild retardation. You saying he doesn't deserve to live? Because that's the quickest way to suplex city, bitch. ^.^

How can you be so callous to the needs of humanity? Don't you realize there is good in them? That some of the biggest game changers on this planet, past, present, and most certainly future, don't fit your view of what a superman should be?

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Not on my watch.

Exactly! Now ya get it ^.^ When ya got .05% owning 90% of everything, they should slow pitch so those that have less can enjoy the quality of life one expects to have in america. Someone called this belief of entitlement as an insult on me one day around here. But the fact is, the rich have a responsability to the disenfranchised. If they refuse to accept that, then they breed desent and chaos. Happens every time in history.

How do we determ the worth of a life. Alot of people think little of me, because I hold no job. But I hold up my duties as a father. I preach some the best surmon since the Mount. If I see someone in need, I aid. Is this work deserving of any level of luxury, or am I lazy for not being greedy? O.o

Some drop out because they're too damn smart for the course. Literally true. Some drop out because life kicked em in the balls. Should we punish these people, or educate them with job skills. You state we should damn them. I say we need to save em.

O.o pop shot? Cute. First, if anyone can touch my IQ I'd be in Shock and Awe. Second, my son has autism and mild retardation. You saying he doesn't deserve to live? Because that's the quickest way to suplex city, bitch. ^.^

How can you be so callous to the needs of humanity? Don't you realize there is good in them? That some of the biggest game changers on this planet, past, present, and most certainly future, don't fit your view of what a superman should be?

 

There is a lot more people out there that earned a long walk down the prison's hallway, leading to the IV bag.... than there is who actually meet the IV bag.

Luck is everywhere, and that includes the Police Station too.

I never said that your son shouldn't live, and we should support HIM.

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There is a lot more people out there that earned a long walk down the prison's hallway, leading to the IV bag.... than there is who actually meet the IV bag.

Luck is everywhere, and that includes the Police Station too.

Thankfully, people are, at heart, forgiving. We make mistakes Ace. Lord knows I made more than my share. But does the Lord slam me down and into a prision? Nope, he lets me testify the Glory and Forgiveness. We gotta learn to love ourselves, and our neighbor, or we're all screwed. Bottom line.

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Thankfully, people are, at heart, forgiving. We make mistakes Ace. Lord knows I made more than my share. But does the Lord slam me down and into a prision? Nope, he lets me testify the Glory and Forgiveness. We gotta learn to love ourselves, and our neighbor, or we're all screwed. Bottom line.

Rape and Murder isn't a mistake...   its a final act that usually has a trail of evil behind it.

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Rape and Murder isn't a mistake...   its a final act that usually has a trail of evil behind it.

Thankfully I've preformed neither. I do agree, rapists and murders should serve time for their err in judgement, and if found impossible to rehabilitate into society, should be placed away from society. But not in a butt rape dungon. Unless they fucked with a kid. Then, that's exactly where they belong.

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Thankfully I've preformed neither. I do agree, rapists and murders should serve time for their err in judgement, and if found impossible to rehabilitate into society, should be placed away from society. But not in a butt rape dungon. Unless they fucked with a kid. Then, that's exactly where they belong.

Rapists and murderers need to be executed.

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Rapists and murderers need to be executed.

Send em to God straight up? Sorry, I'm too dirty to judge a man to his death.

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Send em to God straight up? Sorry, I'm too dirty to judge a man to his death.

Nothing like they are.

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I wonder today if people really understand what socialism is.

 

It is easily explained. Socialism is Uber Corporatism. Under Socialism like that in the USSR under Stalin the entire nation is run like one Corporation. Juts like any efficient corporation it is streamlined for maximum economic production. Workers are paid the least possible (subsistence living). All profits go to the head of the corporation, the ruling cadre. Russia has more billionaires than any other nation. Those people were all part of the Ruling cadre. Despite being broke when the wall fell there are all these Russian billionaires in a nation where no-one was allowed to own anything. How does that happen do you think?

 

It should be noted that the psychological techniques used on their population were cutting edge in the day, straight from places like Tavistock, and other western psychological institutes funded by western businessmen. It was the same businessmen who bankrolled the Russian revolution, who bankrolled the Chinese revolution and bankrolled the Nazis. Wall Street.

Socialism is extreme corporate policies to maximize profits as espoused by JP Morgan. JP Morgan created mass unemployment in the USA when he came up with economic streamlining. In this you get rid of of a lot of workers and run your industry or company with the least amount of people possible. To compete Carnegie and JD Rockefeller were forced to do likewise. This caused mass unemployment in the USA and depression including the Great Depression. In this you will note Socialism is the policies of JP Morgan, JD Rockefeller and the US business cartel/Mafia.

 

It would seem they were conducting an experiment to see how you could control and brainwash a nation to be willing workers who never resisted the corporation. They did this because it has been successful in Japan when the Rothschild clan took over/reformed Japan in 1898. Japanese people are company men, loyal to the company, educated in schools provided by the company and housed in housing provided by the company. It worked in Japan because they were already a subservient culture conditioned over centuries to bow to the ruling class (Samurai. If a worker/peasant touched one even by accident they were killed on the spot). This is also perhaps why in China they were so easily ruled over under Socialism.

 

What worries me the most is people seem to confuse Humanitarian policies with Socialism.

 

In the UK and NZ we have free healthcare (though US lobby groups who want to run for-profit hospitals are always trying to get it removed from those nations according to my friends who are doctors). So does France. Those were brought in as Humanitarian initiatives after WWII were both the poor and wealthy have been wiped out in bombings and have been left with nothing.

Every society is only as strong as it's weakest links. It is humanitarian to take those people born into unfortunate circumstances beyond their control and show then how to be stronger links and a credit to society. It is also simple common sense if you want to get rid of social problems from your nation. The current PM of NZ was raised in a state house by a single mother, so you can see how someone born into a bad situation can rise to the top if looked after by greater society.

 

For some reason people seem to think NZ is a socialist nation. (and by their reasoning so is the UK and France) We have strong humanitarian values which rose from having no class system and facing adversity together (the great NZ depression which came after the Gold Rushes of 1860's had petered out and 100,000 people (men) were left stranded, poor and without any possible work bar shearing sheep when in season). They survived by looking after each other. There was no central government in those days and Cops probably numbered less than 100 for the entire nation. No-one was there to look after them but themselves.

NZ was the first nation in the world to give Women the vote. Some suggest it was a method to obtain votes and get elected. The simple truth was many people were imported from the UK under false duress, being told they would get a free piece of land. When they arrived the land was totally undeveloped and women had to work side by side with men in preparing houses and towns just to get things done. My grandmother and her generation could knock out a man with a single punch. They had earned their place in NZ society rather than demanding it be handed to them on a plate.

This is why NZ has strong social values. There was no class system though some supposed (business owners) they were better than others. It is why we wanted a system which made no distinctions across the board on wealth and treated everyone the same.

 

What happened during the Great NZ depression was a tragedy, thousands of people died with no government support, housing, pensions or support for widows and their children. It was so appalling people vowed it would never be allowed to happen again. We have State housing for the poor (often people suffering from basic mental illnesses in my experience which are quite correctable) or people earning such low wages they can't afford to make rent (today we subsidence rents so housing speculators make a lot of money off the government because the greedy pricks saw a way to bleed others - lobbied the NZ govt- so they could get rich).

 

Please do not confuse humanitarian values and cultures with socialism, they are not the same, not even close. One is about control and greed while the other is about keeping society strong and able.

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