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Designing an Economy

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How good of an Farming Economy could I make based on this, starting out, if I made a country based on Agriculture ?

 

Livestock :

For Wool, and Lamb Meat and Dairy

500,000,000 Llamas

500,000,000 Alpacas

500,000,000 Sheep

500,000,000 Goats

 

For Meat , Dairy, Fur and Leather

100,000,000 Cattle

100,000,000 White Tail Deer

100,000,000 Elk

For Fur :

5,000,000,000 Chinchillas

For Poultry and Eggs :

1,500,000,000 Chickens

1,500,000,000 Turkeys

For Plant Growth :

1,500,000,000 Tons of Potting Soil

1,500,000,000 Tons of Top Soil

1,500,000,000 Tons of Mulch

1,500,000,000 Tons of Fertilizer

1,500,000,000 Tons of Hay

Fruit Crops :

500,000,000 Apple Trees

500,000,000 Pear Trees

500,000,000 Pumpkin Plants

500,000,000 Blueberry Bushes

500,000,000 Strawberry Bushes

 

Vegetable Crops :

1,500,000,000 Squash Plants

500,000,000 Carrot Plants

500,000,000 Tomato Plants

 

Cash Crops :

2,500,000,000 Soy Bean Plants

2,500,000,000 Stevia Plants

2,500,000,000 Hibiscus Plants

2,500,000,000 Hemp Plants

2,500,000,000 Marijuana Plants

10,000,000,000 Corn Plants

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And Importing Hundreds of Millions of tons of Wood and Lumber, and Making things out of wood in woodshops, and exporting the Products made out of the wood.

As well as Importing Hundreds of Millions of Logs...  Cutting it down into wood at our Saw Mills...  and then Selling that wood to our wood shop companies, who make wooden products...  who then export the goods made from that wood.

etc etc etc

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Probably not a very good one.

Too many things are missing from it like other basic resources needed to sustain your crops and livestock for example.
Who is doing all this work? Technology, people? Factor in wages, training, equipment, and facility maintenance costs too.
Going to export the products? Add in transportation equipment like cargo vessels and other fees and costs involved in global sales.
 

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An agriculture economy isn't dependent on the population people but on the population of Animals producing product, and plants producing crops.

And we're talking about Billions, and billions of Animals, producing Hundreds of billions of tons worth of product.

As with any agriculture economy the technologies are imported by trading companies and sold to the people who need them.

The wages are high, Minimum wage $25 an hour

It has 1 city, where all of the clerical work, the sellers of product and technology, where and the ports are etc etc.. and where the Government is located.

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You have to feed all that livestock. With the drought..not much pasture for them to graze on.

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Your number of crops would take up half the U.S. Do you know how large Ten Billion is?

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The labor is also Unionized, and businesses who specialize in actually harvesting... do the harvesting.

No one person does it all,  the labor is divided into specialized fields, to create the most jobs, employ the most people and pay them high wages, which means taxes, which means Education, Infrastructure, Technology, Transportation, Military, Police, Fire department and Rescue services, Healthcare etc.

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Its a lot, but crops don't take a lot of space per plant.

If you had 10,000,000,000 plants on 5x2 plot @ one plant per foot:

378,787 miles on the short side.

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If you had 10,000,000,000 plants on 5x2 plot @ one plant per foot:

378,787 miles on the short side.

ok, thanks

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An agriculture economy isn't dependent on the population.

And we're talking about Billions, and billions of Animals, producing Hundreds of billions of tons worth of product.

As with any agriculture economy the technologies are imported by trading companies and sold to the people who need them.

The wages are high, $25 an hour, the people earn a great living.

It has 1 city, where all of the clerical work, the sellers of product and technology, where and the ports are etc etc.. and where the Government is located.

Every economy is completely dependent on the population it serves. Just because you make it, doesn't mean people will buy it. If you flood the global markets with goods, you reduce the value of all those goods, but your costs to produce them remain the same.

You are talking about hundreds of trillions of animals that require food, water, and some space to exist. Factor in diseases and veterinarian costs for them too.

You are also talking about billions of pieces of large farming equipment (without explaining how people are going to buy it in the first place) that will eventually break down and need to be repaired.

You are paying a fairly low wage actually, for farming work, but didn't explain how the year 1 farming season was able to pay those wages since no money had been earned yet. You can't start in the middle.

The labor is also Unionized, and businesses who specialize in actually harvesting... do the harvesting.

No one person does it all,  the labor is divided into specialized fields, to create the most jobs, employ the most people and pay them high wages.

And with that, you just lost about 10-25% of your entire economy's potential to bureaucracies and corruption. (creating a self-feeding monster that will do anything to stay alive)

"Creating the most jobs" may actually have a negative impact on your economy overall as well. 

I am honestly not trying to belittle your idea, just trying to show that it is far more complicated than it seems you believe it to be. 

I grew up in farm country with farmer relatives, have seen and personally done most of the types of things required in the crops and livestock you listed above (excluding the more exotic things like chinchilla & cannabis) and the local economy was agriculture based, but it required a lot of goods and services completely unrelated to agriculture to keep the population satisfied enough to go and do those labor-intensive jobs. (those people were working for pay checks, not working just to eat the foods they harvested, so other means of motivation were needed)

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