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Ukshep

Time to Combat the Abusive Posters.

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Some of you like to think yourselves to be this individual it seems. But its not going to cut it. I understand for some its a minor thing in the way that they act sometimes and cant be helped. Its also a side effect of inhabiting one of the other infested forums which do train you to be in a permanent state of defensiveness.

But alas. Its the ones that do it in every single post that bothers me and it speaks volumes about them as individuals, Maybe they are just ******** or maybe they are actually shills. Who knows! But what i do know is it stops today.

Those who cannot learn to be nice to each other, will not last long here. We all know you can have a healthy debate without attacking someone because they have a difference of opinion or that you can also have a deep discussion without resorting to attacks of vulgarity.

So with that said. Im adding an extra layer of punishment for those who are abusive to our moderation protocol, Surely this will bother some but im sure that those bothered by this will be the troublemakers themselves. I'm confident the new warning system actions will filter out the troublemakers over time.  You can find the points guide below. and in the guidelines page below the rules.

WARNING SYSTEM GUIDE!
Upon being warned you will receive warning points based on the offense, when you accumulate enough points the below actions will be taken.

  • 10 Warning Points = 12 hour Posting ban
  • 15 Warning Points = 24 hour Posting ban
  • 20 Warning Points = 72 hour Posting ban
  • 21+ Warning Points = Permabanned!

Points are removed 2 weeks after the warning is issued.

The nasa threads will now be unlocked and we can return to normal. Sorry for the inconvenience but we like to tackle each problem as it arises. This way we can make sure the correct decisions are made in regards to future issues and keep quality at the level you have come to expect from us.

If you have any questions or feedback, Feel free to let me know!

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Ukshep - If you need to then remove this post - however this Code Of Conduct has some very valuable guidelines for all of us!

 

 

I stole this, shamelessly from another forum.  If every poster tests himself / herself against these guidelines we should never have a problem.  Agree to disagree like grownups without name-calling it is unbecoming of the high IQ levels on the forum.  

 

XYZ Forum Code of Conduct

The XYZ forum is an independent and privately owned domain to which the right of admission is reserved.

The XYZ board is a gathering place created in an endeavour to give sport lovers a place to debate their favourite sport – divided into the different CT codes.  It is founded upon the principles of Honour, Accord and Respect.  Honour is to hold something or someone in high regard, Accord is harmony and mutual agreement, and Respect is to consider or treat with courtesy.  XYZ members embrace these tenets both here on the board and in our community and in real life.

The main purpose of this forum is a means of communication between members and is not to be used for other purposes.

This community is drawn together by virtue of a common cause in support of their individual CT codes. We are also a diverse group with many occupations, backgrounds and belief systems. That said, the Administrators of XYZ wish to promulgate guidelines designed to protect individual interests, foster community spirit and further the principles, initiatives and goals that we hold dear.

This is OUR community. Most people have a common sense or feel for what is and what is not appropriate in our forums and you generally do a great job of policing yourselves. We do, however, need to have a few set policies for everyone to refer to when the need arises. While the Administrators and Moderators of this forum will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every message. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the Administrators, Moderators or Webmasters (...except for posts by these people) and hence they will not be held liable.

If the user continues to break policy, the XYZ Administration will review the said user’s account and remove it, if need be. It is at the sole discretion of the XYZ Administration to remove violating accounts.

The IP addresses of all posts are recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that the Webmaster, Administrators and Moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic or post at any time should they see fit under the guidelines specified below. You agree that the Webmaster, Administrators and Moderators of this forum have the right to send a private message with a warning and/or censure any forum user who is in violation of forum policy.



Rules and Guidelines for the XYZ Forum

Contents


1 - Language.
2 – Easy Mini-Rules
3 - The Small Print.
4 – Code of Conduct.
5 - Warnings from the Moderation Team (Moderators/Super Moderators/Administrators and Owner / Webmaster).


1 – Language


Please make all your posts in English, it's nice to know what you're saying and this way there is a far smaller chance of you being able to write and get away with anything you're not supposed to.
Please be attentive to the moods, thoughts and vocabulary being currently used by the community at this forum. Be polite, be kind, but more importantly try to be a great listener first. Pay some attention to the post in front of yours and half the challenge of making that especially great presentation is already done.


2 - Easy Mini-Rules.


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2.c - Please, refrain from double posts. Double posts confuse other posters, can ruin the order of meaning, and can result in topics that are inappropriate and not allowed.
2.d - Careful with the Spamming...Careful with the Spamming...Careful with the Spamming...Careful wit... Got it?


3 - The Small Print
The Freedom to, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness or How XYZ shows its respect for you in small-print. These are those legal, boring and ever-ubiquitous small print rules that we know you'll never read but which we'll be ready to throw at you in that fraction of a second you try and break them.

3.1. Intellectual Property - Intellectual property of others is highly regarded due to the effort, creativity and hard work put forth by those individuals. With that in mind not plagiarising others works, respecting copyrights, patents, trade secrets and trademarks are encouraged. All posts made on this forum are property of the posters, subject to the license granted below. All other material and content on the XYZ website and/or forum are the property and copyright of XYZ and all rights are reserved. By posting material on the XYZ site/forum, you grant to XYZ a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right and license to use, reproduce, edit, modify, adapt, publish, translate, communicate to the public, perform and display the submitted content (in whole or in part) worldwide for the full term of any rights that may exist in the content.  "Specific material already subjected to copyright law, (i.e. Publications, photographs, film and the like) will only be used in its original unedited form, with credit given to the original copyright holder. If such copyrighted material is included in a post, it should be indicated as such and credit should be given to the copyright holder. Failure to specifically indicate such rights will automatically indicate that the material fall under the public domain."


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The participants will be clearly warned in red text - see this as a moderator not acting as a participant, but moderating!
The member will be given time to correct their post if required. If the member does not do so a formal warning will be issued. We don't want to go this route and shall give ample warning and time to correct.

 

Advice: move away from this thread. Please don't query the moderator's decisions - it’s a crap job and doesn't need public scrutiny - we do scrutinise each other and will always act fairly.

When a thread has been locked or moved:

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Ukshep - If you need to then remove this post - however this Code Of Conduct has some very valuable guidelines for all of us!

 

 

I stole this, shamelessly from another forum.  If every poster tests himself / herself against these guidelines we should never have a problem.  Agree to disagree like grownups without name-calling it is unbecoming of the high IQ levels on the forum.  

 

I actually have something like this in the works already. Its far from completed though. Reason i started it was because anyone can say dont do this or dont do that. But its much easier if you show people the correct way to do something.

Its just a slow process. I have tons left to do hehe. Only got around to adding the faq and that is still unfinished.

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That one is my own property - did for our sports forum -  so you may extrapolate from it if you want!

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I've been on the road for the last month, so I guess I missed some douchery. :)  Thank you, Shep, for keeping this place from spiraling down into a pit of basic (and immature) behavior. <3 

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That's why I like this site.  Sure I might not have the same beliefs and ideas as other posters here but being an adult about the conversation is why I'm here.  

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 I get attacked constantly for playing the devils advocate.  Even counter views should be taking civilly in discussion .  When people don't agree with some theories it makes people angry .

 

 But the people that get angry should really ask their selves .  If they would prefer to get to the truth surrounded by nobody but people that agree with them? ( yes men)

 

 People that regularly differ from discussion are immediately labeled Shills.  That word is well thought out and calculated to  offend the the person being labeled one.

 

 It seems to be a  tolerated insult  on most CT sites .  I personally see to keywords that usually precipitate any angry exchanges .  Those words are shill  and  Troll. 

 

 It will be hard to have peace on any fourm  as long as those two ad-hom  attacks are tolerated .

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 I get attacked constantly for playing the devils advocate.  Even counter views should be taking civilly in discussion .  When people don't agree with some theories it makes people angry .

 

 But the people that get angry should really ask their selves .  If they would prefer to get to the truth surrounded by nobody but people that agree with them? ( yes men)

 

 People that regularly differ from discussion are immediately labeled Shills.  That word is well thought out and calculated to  offend the the person being labeled one.

 

 It seems to be a  tolerated insult  on most CT sites .  I personally see to keywords that usually precipitate any angry exchanges .  Those words are shill  and  Troll. 

 

 It will be hard to have peace on any fourm  as long as those two ad-hom  attacks are tolerated .

Thing is when they use it against a poster, its then classed as abusive and calling out. Thus breaking our rules. Best thing you can do when you see a violation is to report it. As we have lots of threads and its hard to go through them all and catch everything that gets said. :D

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Thing is when they use it against a poster, its then classed as abusive and calling out. Thus breaking our rules. Best thing you can do when you see a violation is to report it. As we have lots of threads and its hard to go through them all and catch everything that gets said. :D

You're right but I hate to report and seldom do it .   I'm well aware that I take the bait sometimes and retaliate . ( sorry)

 

 I will try to amend my carnivorous habits . Lol

 

 I will  use the report button in the future.  But a insult is a insult ,  thank you for not letting people get a free ride for a  quasi "accepted" insult .

 

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disagree

To have a different opinion : to fail to agree;  to be different

disagreeable

not pleasing : unpleasant or offensive: of a person : difficult to deal with : easily angered or annoyed

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/

 

You can defend the former but when you do so under the guise of the latter then that's how you end up on my ignore list.

http://www.quotationof.com/images/disagreeable-quotes-3.jpg

 

 

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That's why I like this site.  Sure I might not have the same beliefs and ideas as other posters here but being an adult about the conversation is why I'm here.  

And, sometimes I learn a thing or two.  Sometimes we are forced to do a little more research and find that maybe our argument was a tad thin.  Sometimes you know you're correct and the other poster is wrong, but in time they may even do the research and find the error of their ways.  If we all agreed all the time there'd be no need for any CT and life would be oh so boring!

Surely we can differ of opinion without being abusive about it?  My take normally is that the first guy to become abusive is in fact well aware that he/she is wrong but thinks it can be plastered straight by being abusive.

However, these instances are very few and far between on this forum and mostly the debate is wholesome and on an adult level, until....

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On 9/6/2015, 10:31:24, YourMom2 said:

disagree

To have a different opinion : to fail to agree;  to be different

disagreeable

not pleasing : unpleasant or offensive: of a person : difficult to deal with : easily angered or annoyed

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/

 

You can defend the former but when you do so under the guise of the latter then that's how you end up on my ignore list.

http://www.quotationof.com/images/disagreeable-quotes-3.jpg

 

 

 

 G if I'm on your ignore list how come you confront and single me out ?  In a thread made for healing the problems on this fourm . Nobody else has mentioned any specific names.  Apparently that position is left up to people with an ax to grind ?

 Your need to take advantage of this thread to pursue a personal agenda also has a term .

 

 Crucify 

 

 To criticize someone severely and unrelentingly .

 

Shep   Even mentioned that one of the problems is call outs .  Did you miss that part of the  other thread ?

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