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When I think back some years maybe 15 or 20 I don't remember school shootings and the like where a doctor prescribed drugs where involved . Just saying .

But then when I was in school the drug of choice was weed :bananarasta: , All we ever did was draw pictures build stupid shit and listened to rock and roll music .. Our guns were keeped in our lockers till needed for a gun safety class or for shooting competitions with other schools .

Here is a history of school shootings . Its kinda cool to read

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States


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This guy is making entirely too much sense. No one wants to approach the real issue this way, but he does a good job of it.

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This guy is making entirely too much sense. No one wants to approach the real issue this way, but he does a good job of it.

He does do a good job of it in my opinion as well. Now let's see him tell us what is causing mental illness. Not all people with mental illnesses are born with it. It's sometimes

induced (i.e. PTSD from War,etc). I think one of the biggest causes of mental illness is the continual bombardment of media social engineering and religion. I don't have any issues with the three Abrahamic religions but a lot of Christians, Muslims and Jews are not practicing what they preach and believe. Buddhism on the other hand is a philosophy

and most Americans believe it's a Religion that states there is no God due to ignorance and the other religions competing for business. When's the last time you heard of read of a Buddhist going bonkers and committing crazy-town violence? Education is the key to help quell this rise in mental illness, especially education in emotional intelligence beginning at an early age where it's not being done in the home, nor being taught in school and is really what keeps you stable in life in my opinion. 

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Ask, and ye shall receive.

Well that's ONE instance and the B.B.S. (buncha bull shit) aka "Buddha Power Force" isn't practicing Buddhism so I don't consider them Buddhist. 

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Al Jazeera did an article a few years ago, I'll fetch it, that had statistical facts on the number one type of drug prescribed in the United States. Guess what it was? Painkillers? NO!

Anti-depressants? No! It was ANTI-PSYCHOTICS! http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117313948379987.html

So, my question again is what's "causing" the mass mental illness (not the stuff you're born with but is developed over time) Well, one thing I can think of is we have the highest per capita rate of televisions in households bombarding us with propaganda, another is...well I'll stop at that. I will blame the perversion of religious texts by the religious leaders for power and profit along with continual propaganda bombardment in all forms of media. America seems to be a big mad social scientist experiment. 

 

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS POSSIBLY A TLDR QUOTE FROM THE LINK ABOVE!

OPINION

Mass psychosis in the US

How Big Pharma got Americans hooked on anti-psychotic drugs.

12 Jul 2011 06:20 GMT | HealthUS & CanadaUnited States

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR

James Ridgeway

James Ridgeway is a senior Washington correspondent with Mother Jones Magazine. He is the author of 16 books.

 

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux.

Once upon a time, antipsychotics were reserved for a relatively small number of patients with hard-core psychiatric diagnoses - primarily schizophrenia and bipolar disorder - to treat such symptoms as delusions, hallucinations, or formal thought disorder. Today, it seems, everyone is taking antipsychotics. Parents are told that their unruly kids are in fact bipolar, and in need of anti-psychotics, while old people with dementia are dosed, in large numbers, with drugs once

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Drug companies like Pfizer are accused of pressuring doctors into over-prescribing medications to patients in order to increase profits [GALLO/GETTY]

Has America become a nation of psychotics? You would certainly think so, based on the explosion in the use of antipsychotic medications. In 2008, with over $14 billion in sales, antipsychotics became the single top-selling therapeutic class of prescription drugs in the United States, surpassing drugs used to treat high cholesterol and acid reflux.

Once upon a time, antipsychotics were reserved for a relatively small number of patients with hard-core psychiatric diagnoses - primarily schizophrenia and bipolar disorder - to treat such symptoms as delusions, hallucinations, or formal thought disorder. Today, it seems, everyone is taking antipsychotics. Parents are told that their unruly kids are in fact bipolar, and in need of anti-psychotics, while old people with dementia are dosed, in large numbers, with drugs once reserved largely for schizophrenics. Americans with symptoms ranging from chronic depression to anxiety to insomnia are now being prescribed anti-psychotics at rates that seem to indicate a national mass psychosis.

It is anything but a coincidence that the explosion in antipsychotic use coincides with the pharmaceutical industry's development of a new class of medications known as "atypical antipsychotics." Beginning with Zyprexa, Risperdal, and Seroquel in the 1990s, followed by Abilify in the early 2000s, these drugs were touted as being more effective than older antipsychotics like Haldol and Thorazine. More importantly, they lacked the most noxious side effects of the older drugs - in particular, the tremors and other motor control problems.

The atypical anti-psychotics were the bright new stars in the pharmaceutical industry's roster of psychotropic drugs - costly, patented medications that made people feel and behave better without any shaking or drooling. Sales grew steadily, until by 2009 Seroquel and Abilify numbered fifth and sixth in annual drug sales, and prescriptions written for the top three atypical antipsychotics totaled more than 20 million.  Suddenly, antipsychotics weren't just for psychotics any more.

Not just for psychotics anymore

By now, just about everyone knows how the drug industry works to influence the minds of American doctors, plying them with gifts, junkets, ego-tripping awards, and research funding in exchange for endorsing or prescribing the latest and most lucrative drugs. "Psychiatrists are particularly targeted by Big Pharma because psychiatric diagnoses are very subjective," says Dr. Adriane Fugh-Berman, whose PharmedOut project tracks the industry's influence on American medicine, and who last month hosted a conference on the subject at Georgetown. A shrink can't give you a blood test or an MRI to figure out precisely what's wrong with you. So it's often a case of diagnosis by prescription. (If you feel better after you take an anti-depressant, it's assumed that you were depressed.) As the researchers in one study of the drug industry's influence put it, "the lack of biological tests for mental disorders renders psychiatry especially vulnerable to industry influence." For this reason, they argue, it's particularly important that the guidelines for diagnosing and treating mental illness be compiled "on the basis of an objective review of the scientific evidence" - and not on whether the doctors writing them got a big grant from Merck or own stock in AstraZeneca.

Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and a leading critic of the Big Pharma, puts it more bluntly: "Psychiatrists are in the pocket of industry." Angell has pointed out that most of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the bible of mental health clinicians, have ties to the drug industry. Likewise, a 2009 study showed that 18 out of 20 of the shrinks who wrote the American Psychiatric Association's most recent clinical guidelines for treating depression, bipolar disorders, and schizophrenia had financial ties to drug companies.

"The use of psychoactive drugs - including both antidepressants and antipsychotics - has exploded...[yet] 'the tally of those who are disabled...increased nearly two and a half times."

Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine

In a recent article in The New York Review of Books, Angell deconstructs what she calls an apparent "raging epidemic of mental illness" among Americans. The use of psychoactive drugs—including both antidepressants and antipsychotics—has exploded, and if the new drugs are so effective, Angell points out, we should "expect the prevalence of mental illness to be declining, not rising." Instead, "the tally of those who are so disabled by mental disorders that they qualify for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) increased nearly two and a half times between 1987 and 2007 - from one in 184 Americans to one in seventy-six. For children, the rise is even more startling - a thirty-five-fold increase in the same two decades. Mental illness is now the leading cause of disability in children." Under the tutelage of Big Pharma, we are "simply expanding the criteria for mental illness so that nearly everyone has one." Fugh-Berman agrees: In the age of aggressive drug marketing, she says, "Psychiatric diagnoses have expanded to include many perfectly normal people."

Cost benefit analysis

What's especially troubling about the over-prescription of the new antipsychotics is its prevalence among the very young and the very old - vulnerable groups who often do not make their own choices when it comes to what medications they take. Investigations into antipsychotic use suggests that their purpose, in these cases, may be to subdue and tranquilize rather than to treat any genuine psychosis.

Carl Elliott reports in Mother Jones magazine: "Once bipolar disorder could be treated with atypicals, rates of diagnoses rose dramatically, especially in children. According to a recent Columbia University study, the number of children and adolescents treated for bipolar disorder rose 40-fold between 1994 and 2003." And according toanother study, "one in five children who visited a psychiatrist came away with a prescription for an antipsychotic drug."

A remarkable series published in the Palm Beach Post in May true revealed that the state of  Florida's juvenile justice department has literally been pouring these drugs into juvenile facilities, "routinely" doling them out "for reasons that never were approved by federal regulators." The numbers are staggering: "In 2007, for example, the Department of Juvenile Justice bought more than twice as much Seroquel as ibuprofen. Overall, in 24 months, the department bought 326,081 tablets of Seroquel, Abilify, Risperdal and other antipsychotic drugs for use in state-operated jails and homes for children…That's enough to hand out 446 pills a day, seven days a week, for two years in a row, to kids in jails and programs that can hold no more than 2,300 boys and girls on a given day." Further, the paper discovered that "One in three of the psychiatrists who have contracted with the state Department of Juvenile Justice in the past five years has taken speaker fees or gifts from companies that make antipsychotic medications."

In addition to expanding the diagnoses of serious mental illness, drug companies have encouraged doctors to prescribe atypical anti-psychotics for a host of off-label uses. In one particularly notorious episode, the drugmaker Eli Lilly pushed Zyprexa on the caregivers of old people with Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia, as well as agitation, anxiety, and insomnia. In selling to nursing home doctors, sales reps reportedly used the slogan "five at five"—meaning that five milligrams of Zyprexa at 5 pm would sedate their more difficult charges. The practice persisted even after FDA had warned Lilly that the drug was not approved for such uses, and that it could lead to obesity and even diabetes in elderly patients.

In a video interview conducted in 2006, Sharham Ahari, who sold Zyprexa for two years at the beginning of the decade, described to me how the sales people would wangle the doctors into prescribing it. At the time, he recalled, his doctor clients were giving him a lot of grief over patients who were "flipping out" over the weight gain associated with the drug, along with the diabetes. "We were instructed to downplay side effects and focus on the efficacy of drug…to recommend the patient drink a glass a water before taking a pill before the  meal and then after the meal in hopes the stomach would expand" and provide an easy way out of this obstacle to increased sales. When docs complained, he recalled, "I told them, ‘Our drug is state of the art. What's more important? You want them to get better or do you want them to stay the same--a thin psychotic patient or a fat stable patient.'"

For the drug companies, Shahrman says, the decision to continue pushing the drug despite side effects is matter of cost benefit analysis: Whether you will make more money by continuing to market the drug for off-label use, and perhaps defending against lawsuits, than you would otherwise. In the case of Zyprexa, in January 2009, Lilly settled a lawsuit brought by with the US Justice Department, agreeing to pay $1.4 billion, including "a criminal fine of $515 million, the largest ever in a health care case, and the largest criminal fine for an individual corporation ever imposed in a United States criminal prosecution of any kind,''the Department of Justice said in announcing the settlement." But Lilly's sale of Zyprexa in that year alone were over $1.8 billion.

Making patients worse 


People and Power: Drug Money

As it turns out, the atypical antipsychotics may not even be the best choice for people with genuine, undisputed psychosis.

A growing number of health professionals have come to think these drugs are not really as effective as older, less expensive medicines which they have replaced, that they themselves produce side effects that cause other sorts of diseases such as diabetes and plunge the patient deeper into the gloomy world of serious mental disorder. Along with stories of success comes reports of people turned into virtual zombies.

Elliott reports in Mother Jones: "After another large analysis in The Lancet found that most atypicals actually performed worse than older drugs, two senior British psychiatrists penned a damning editorial that ran in the same issue. Dr. Peter Tyrer, the editor of the British Journal of Psychiatry, and Dr. Tim Kendall of the Royal College of Psychiatrists wrote: "The spurious invention of the atypicals can now be regarded as invention only, cleverly manipulated by the drug industry for marketing purposes and only now being exposed."

Bottom line: Stop Big Pharma and the parasitic shrink community from wantonly pushing these pills across the population.

James Ridgeway writes for The Guardian newspaper, and is the senior Washington correspondent for Mother Jones magazine.

The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy.

Source: Al Jazeera

 

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They aren't any different from Muslim, or Christian terrorists.  They use religion as a means to veil their true beliefs, while slowly, but surely, indoctrinating their adherents to their violent views.

Also, there are the Myanmar Buddhists who are trying to commit genocide against the ethnic Rohingya.

Buddhism isn't a religion, but yes, I know about the power hungry nut jobs and again, they're not true Buddhists. Just like most Christians that practice hate aren't true Christians, so I don't consider them Christians and same goes for all other religions and philosophy based ways of life. In My opinion, Zen Buddhism is the best of the bunch. (Which was taken from a form of Chinese Buddhism and modified by a Japanese guy). 

A bit of comic relief are the lyrics from a Smith's song:

"I was delayed, I was way-laid
An emergency stop
I smelt the last ten seconds of life
I crashed down on the crossbar
And the pain was enough to make
A shy, bald, buddhist reflect
And plan a mass murder
Who said lied I'd to her?"

From the song "Stop if you think that you've heard this one before"

 

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They aren't any different from Muslim, or Christian terrorists.  They use religion as a means to veil their true beliefs, while slowly, but surely, indoctrinating their adherents to their violent views.

Also, there are the Myanmar Buddhists who are trying to commit genocide against the ethnic Rohingya.

So what do you think about the mass mental illness the the most prescribed type of med in the U.S. in that year in the article? Crazy, eh?

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It is crazy. 

I don't trust big pharma at all.  I've been diagnosed with anxiety and PTSD, but I would rather drink tea made from the flowers in my garden and perform woodworking that calms me than take some pill that has more negative side effects than dropping an atom bomb.

Most definitely. Even the U.S. Government and this administration has OK'd the use of cannabis in the treatment of PTSD. Valium was named after the flowering plant that has roots used for anxiety and it works quite well, even better if made in a tincture of grain alcohol-Valerian Root. Anxiety is easily quelled with a little bit of ethanol and the effects of a small bit of the hard stuff has the exact same effect of a benzodiazepine. 

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To clarify, the Federal Govt. has ok'd the use of cannabis in VETERANS diagnosed with PTSD. You can get ALL the benefits of pot without getting "high" (cannabis is classified as a hallucinogen because of the thc in it, the cbd does nothing but relax you and depending on the strength of it gives you that "too stoned to get off the couch" effect and is used for psychosis, depression, anxiety and much more as well as treating and preventing 100% every day, all the time-epilepsy. Kids in Michigan as young as six years old are using

cannabis oil (so little thc  content in the oil that it's undetectable unless you use a very expensive lab spectrometer thingy to test it) and there are no ill effects so the kids aren't getting high when they put a little cbd/cannabis butter on a piece of toast and eat it. Epilepsy drugs are hard on the liver and you have to constantly get blood work done to make sure there is a low level of liver toxicity from it. 

Texas has already approved and legalized cannabis oil for use in patients diagnosed with epilepsy, although you can't really say it was illegal in the first place because cannabinol is not a scheduled substance and although trace amounts of thc are in it, a very expensive test is needed to find it... the local police/sheriff/statepatrol/private labs won't find any thc (schedule 1) won't find any if they seize and test it. If you were pulled over and they ask you what the green goo is, and they took a field test to see if it was pot, it would test negative. 

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/05/michigan_oks_medical_marijuana.html *correction! they are giving them the actual flower from cannabis, not simply the cannabinol (hemp oil) wow. 

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On 7/27/2015, 7:54:42, Polymorphicholofractal said:

Buddhism isn't a religion, but yes, I know about the power hungry nut jobs and again, they're not true Buddhists. Just like most Christians that practice hate aren't true Christians, so I don't consider them Christians and same goes for all other religions and philosophy based ways of life. In My opinion, Zen Buddhism is the best of the bunch. (Which was taken from a form of Chinese Buddhism and modified by a Japanese guy). 

A bit of comic relief are the lyrics from a Smith's song:

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On 7/27/2015, 7:54:42, Polymorphicholofractal said:

From the song "Stop if you think that you've heard this one before"

 

You have some good taste in music.
:cheers:

 

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copyrighted lyrics removed

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