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China’s 8 Ton Tiangong-1 Space Station In Uncontrolled Descent, Could Land Anywhere

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An eight-tonne satellite could be heading to Earth.

The satellite was launched in 2011 and had been designed to crash safely into the ocean.

However, the “space lab” went offline earlier this year, and now fears are mounting that the huge chunk of metal could land anywhere on its return.

While most space debris burns up once it re-enter the atmosphere, the sheer size of the satellite means that it will still be largely intact once it crashes into the planet.

Satellite tracker Thomas Dorman has been monitoring the space equipment and fears that China is not fulfilling its duties in warning the public.

He told Space.com “If I am right, China will wait until the last minute to let the world know it has a problem with their space station.

“It could be a real bad day if pieces of this came down in a populated area, but odds are it will land in the ocean or in an unpopulated area.

“But remember — sometimes, the odds just do not work out, so this may bear watching.”

http://right.is/space/2016/07/chinas-8-ton-tiangong-1-space-station-in-uncontrolled-descent-could-land-anywhere-3830.html

 

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But why will it fall, if there is no gravity?  Some say there is no gravity.  But if there is then gravitational forces may (will) determine the "path" this satellite takes.  So if the clever people can do the math on gravitational pull-forces and they can plot the current location of the object before it starts falling then they could effectively say where or whereabouts it may crash?

But, if it was launched and it is circumventing without using a fuel or an engine so to say, why would it then decide to fall - or be pulled by earth's gravitational forces?

 

This gives me a headache!  Gravity!  Then again, apparently it gives a whole lot of very "clever" guys a headache too.

I don't think one can simply say that there is no such thing as gravity because just as difficult as it is for them to explain (prove) that gravity exists just as difficult it is to explain (with proof) that it does not.  Simply saying it does not exist is not sufficient and simply saying it does is also not.......Seems a bit of a checkmate.

This from a university / via universe today

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But these effects – where there are basically curves, hills and valleys in space — occur for reasons we can’t fully really explain. Besides being a characteristic of space, gravity is also a force (but it is the weakest of the four forces), and it might be a particle, too. Some scientists have proposed particles called gravitons cause objects to be attracted to one another. But gravitons have never actually been observed. Another idea is that gravitational waves are generated when an object is accelerated by an external force, but these waves have never been directly detected, either.

Our understanding of gravity breaks down at both the very small and the very big: at the level of atoms and molecules, gravity just stops working. And we can’t describe the insides of black holes and the moment of the Big Bang without the math completely falling apart.

The problem is that our understanding of both particle physics and the geometry of gravity is incomplete.

“Having gone from basically philosophical understandings of why things fall to mathematical descriptions of how things accelerate down inclines from Galileo, to Kepler’s equations describing planetary motion to Newton’s formulation of the Laws of Physics, to Einstein’s formulations of relativity, we’ve been building and building a more comprehensive view of gravity. But we’re still not complete,” said Dr. Pamela Gay. “We know that there still needs to be some way to unite quantum mechanics and gravity and actually be able to write down equations that describe the centers of black holes and the earliest moments of the Universe. But we’re not there yet.”

And so, the mystery remains … for now.

 

This “Minute Physics” video helps explain what we know about gravity:

 

 

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47 minutes ago, BigRed said:

An eight-tonne satellite could be heading to Earth.

The satellite was launched in 2011 and had been designed to crash safely into the ocean.

However, the “space lab” went offline earlier this year, and now fears are mounting that the huge chunk of metal could land anywhere on its return.

While most space debris burns up once it re-enter the atmosphere, the sheer size of the satellite means that it will still be largely intact once it crashes into the planet.

Satellite tracker Thomas Dorman has been monitoring the space equipment and fears that China is not fulfilling its duties in warning the public.

He told Space.com “If I am right, China will wait until the last minute to let the world know it has a problem with their space station.

“It could be a real bad day if pieces of this came down in a populated area, but odds are it will land in the ocean or in an unpopulated area.

“But remember — sometimes, the odds just do not work out, so this may bear watching.”

http://right.is/space/2016/07/chinas-8-ton-tiangong-1-space-station-in-uncontrolled-descent-could-land-anywhere-3830.html

 

.. so now people are told to go wait when 'the palace of heaven' will 'fall out of the sky'..?

gong2 : 'bow'  to shoot with = "bow of heaven", the high place north of earth where set+horus stood

gong3: chief, father, prince, 'father of heaven' i.e, God

...i have some idea as to why peoples energy is needed for this umpth ritual...

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1 hour ago, Malevolent said:

But why will it fall, if there is no gravity?  Some say there is no gravity.  But if there is then gravitational forces may (will) determine the "path" this satellite takes.  So if the clever people can do the math on gravitational pull-forces and they can plot the current location of the object before it starts falling then they could effectively say where or whereabouts it may crash?

But, if it was launched and it is circumventing without using a fuel or an engine so to say, why would it then decide to fall - or be pulled by earth's gravitational forces?

 

This gives me a headache!  Gravity!  Then again, apparently it gives a whole lot of very "clever" guys a headache too.

I don't think one can simply say that there is no such thing as gravity because just as difficult as it is for them to explain (prove) that gravity exists just as difficult it is to explain (with proof) that it does not.  Simply saying it does not exist is not sufficient and simply saying it does is also not.......Seems a bit of a checkmate.

This from a university / via universe today

This “Minute Physics” video helps explain what we know about gravity:

 

 

 

1. Satellites don't exist. Not in space anyway. Observe rocket launches. They all arc sideways and down very quickly. When air pressure drops to nil, thrust does not work. Televised launches in Western countries veer out to sea, where the fallen parts are recovered and re-used. The space shuttles were much too heavy to be hoisted on big airplanes. Mock-ups were used, with jet-propelled substitutes making the dramatic re-entries. Look at those videos, clearly exposing noisy jet engines and combustion chambers in the rear of what is supposed to be a glider. A glider? With those wings? 

 

2. Chinese. Really? Their green screen sets and space walks performed in water tanks are even more fault-ridden than the ISS. Very easy to find videos to debunk the hoaxes.

3. Your video, Mal, is cartoonish propaganda from the Body Scientific. Gravity is actually density. Dense objects coalesce, while less dense objects like insects and clouds and smoke go where they "want" to. That makes no sense if we accept gravity as the reason. Mass is mass is mass. All mass must obey gravity and fall down.

4. Critical thinking Questions Everything. Politics, religion, science. 

5. Gravity is a theory. Except in my case. I'm real. And I do give people headaches.

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