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RE: Is The Human Race a Resource?

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Famed astrophysicist Dr. Stephen Hawking has voiced concern about the dangers, he believes, are posed by alien predators who may arrive in giant space ships, to conquer, enslave, destroy, colonize, and voraciously exploit the resources of Earth.
 
According to Hawking:
"To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like..."
According to Hawking aliens,
"would be only limited by how much power they could harness and control, and that could be far more than we might first imagine...Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach...
 
I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet...If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans."


1. Hawking's Alien's Squawkings
John Menninger, Ph.D., Department of Biology, University of Iowa
Aliens, as perceived by Hawking
Could soon visit Earth for some gawking.
They might do good, but Oy!,
They might wish to destroy!
We'll more likely be bored by their talking.
(-- with apologies to E. Lear)

 
2. Darwinism and Hawking's Aliens
Blair Csuti, Ph.D., Research Associate, Department of Forest Ecosystems and Society, Oregon State University

First, one must grant the premise that by sheer laws of probability, many advanced alien civilizations exist throughout the universe.
 
Professor Hawking’s trepidation about the wisdom of overtly seeking contact with them is well-founded. We have no way of discerning the intent of alien visitors except after-the-fact. The Darwinian concept of natural selection supports the assumption that aliens visiting newly discovered planets, like Earth, would place their own interests above those of unsophisticated indigenous residents.

If the rate of evolution observed on Earth from the first records of single-celled organisms to the current state of hominid achievement is any indication, one can expect that alien civilizations will achieve a similar level of technological development in 5 or 6 billion years. Our best estimates of the age of the universe range in excess of 13 billion years.
 
Therefore, another statistical premise is that there will be lots of more advanced alien civilizations in the older, more distant reaches of the universe. All of this bodes ill for the outcome of any encounter with space aliens.

However, the one bright spot in this ominous conclusion are the constraints that light, time, and space place on both matter and energy (that means both us and our potential alien invaders).
 
It’s no coincidence that every science fiction narrative of interstellar travel includes some currently undiscovered system that allows travel many times faster than the speed of light. In real science, however, Einstein’s relativity theories seem to have held up on one point: no particle or wave exceeds the speed of light.
 
First, this means that the wave front of Earth’s first electromagnetic transmissions to the rest of the universe is barely more than 100 light-years distant. It could well be tens of millions of years before our unintended radio and television calling cards are noticed by the first avaricious aliens. Then, racing to Earth at near-light speed, it will take our would-be exploiters tens of millions more years to turn up on our doorstep.
 
Unless they have very long life-spans, that would require a generational space ship with little prospect of returning to their home planet with whatever booty that they considered valuable enough to undertake a long and expensive expedition.

The only motivation for alien space plunders to visit Earth then, as Hawking suggested, would be to send out one-way colonists to expand the size and distribution of their race. Given sufficient time, that scenario is likely to play out multiple times. This is not so different, strange to say, from human’s own aspirations for space travel.
 
Earth’s only hope will be that the laws of physics apply throughout the universe and place constraints on the types and power of possible weaponry that could be used against humans…and that by the time the invaders arrive, humans themselves will have discovered and deployed similar defense systems that would allow Earth to hold its own.
 
Speculation about the future is by definition, fiction, but it sounds as if our most imaginative science fiction may turn out to be closer to the truth than we would like.
 
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3. Alien Conquistadors? Hawking is Right
Robert Ehrlich, Ph.D., Professor of Physics, George Mason University

It is easy for one’s initial reaction to Stephen Hawking’s assertion about predatory alien visitors to be dismissive, since while he is perhaps our greatest living physicist, he has no more expertise in the area of alien motives than anyone else - assuming that intelligent aliens even exist.
 
But after a little thought one’s second reaction might be “how could it be otherwise?”
 
Given the obstacles to alien life evolving beyond the microbial stage in our own solar system, one presumes that alien visitors would come to us from other star systems - the other possibility being that microbial aliens might hitch a ride on a meteorite blasted off from a planet within our own solar system.

Alien visitors from the stars would fall into one of four categories, i.e., they,
have mastered the technology of faster-than-light travel (if that is even possible)
be adaptable robots whose mental processes reflect those of their senders
have such long lifetimes that interstellar voyages are possible, or
have lived for many generations aboard their ships.
My own guess is that number 2 would be the most likely, but with all these choices it would be a safe guess that if these space-journeying aliens exist, their technology is light-years ahead of ours, and that they are almost certainly the preeminent species on their home planet.

How would a species attain that favored status?
 
Certainly, intelligence is a factor, but one can always imagine unintelligent species winning out. For example, it is not out of the realm of possibility that intelligent humans could be wiped out by lowly microbes.
 
Nevertheless, all our experiences on Earth suggest that when a more technologically advanced species or group of humans encounters another and competes for the same resources, the result is always conflict, with the more advanced group emerging victorious - the movie Avatar notwithstanding. Being a member of a species generally means you value the lives of your own members above those of other species, even if you might not wish to see them die needlessly.

On Earth our recognition of the deep mental and emotional lives of some of our fellow passengers on the planet has come exceedingly slowly - with Rene Descartes even holding that animals are simply robots having no thoughts or feelings.
 
Given the probability that the gap in intelligence between alien visitors and humans would be far greater than that between humans and our close relatives on Earth, how could they not think of us as a very lowly life form, certainly not worthy of treating as equals?

One also needs to ask what motives aliens would have for taking the trouble to travel across the stars. Could it be simple curiosity, and a desire to have us join the “Galactic Federation?”
 
This seems highly doubtful, because interstellar communication would seem to be the far easier course of action in that case. Of course, there is the limit of the speed of light to consider, which makes interstellar communication a rather prolonged affair. However, if we have already allowed faster-than-light travel, there is no reason to exclude faster-than-light communication, using tachyons perhaps, which incidentally are not entirely excluded based on experimental searches to date.

Let’s assume Stephen Hawking is correct then, and proceed to the next step - what should we do?
 
One might argue that we should make no attempt to communicate with intelligent aliens by broadcasting signals. The temptation to do so could become quite strong if SETI ever detects an unambiguously positive signal. On the other hand, such communication would be quite pointless should the signal be from a star 500 light years away, given that the beings who we will have likely evolved into (or who replace us) in 500 years will bear little resemblance to those of us who sent the message.

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Moreover, given the difficulties we now have in even taking simple actions to save the planet from manmade environmental catastrophe, one can only imagine the debate in the halls of Congress and United Nations as to how to reply to alien attempts at communication.

 
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4. Hawking's Alien Invaders Might Be Microorganisms
B.G. Sidharth, Ph.D. International Institute For Applicable Mathematics & Information Sciences B.M. Birla Science Centre Adarshnagar, Hyderabad, India

Professor Stephen Hawking’s latest much publicized views about the existence of aliens and the threat his imagined aliens pose to mankind are somewhat naïve though not absurd, as these are based on the probability that such events may happen, given that there are so many stars and planets.
 
However, even if Hawking's were correct, the greatest danger may not be technically advanced aliens looking for world's to conquer, but the diseases and micro-oganisms which might journey with them.
 
Findings in recent years support the view that life in the universe may be widespread, and most likely, much of that life probably consists of bacteria, archae, and the viruses typically associated with them. There are already tantalizing clues suggestive of past and even present life on Mars.
 
Life may have also taken hold on Europa, Titan, and other moons and planets in this solar system (see Journal of Cosmology, Vol 5). The French satellite CoRoT has just discovered a planet, called CoRoT-9b far beyond the Solar System, 1500 light years away. What makes this finding dramatic is that this could well be the first temperate planet similar to the planets of our Solar System.
 
The new planet has a size roughly that of Jupiter with an orbit similar to Mercury. Unlike the four hundred other suspected exo-planets, is neither extremely hot nor extremely cold. Its surface temperature is estimated to be between minus 20 degrees and 160 degrees Celsius, similar to Mars. Extremeophiles could certainly live under these conditions.

Very recently too NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena has discovered a planet well outside the Solar System which has traces of organic molecules, the building blocks of life. The planet HD209458b has yielded traces of water, methane and carbon dioxide as detected by the Hubble Space Telescope and the Spitzer Telescope.
 
Similar findings have been determined for the planet HD189733b.

These particular findings do not prove that life itself would be widespread, because it would be very improbable for life to develop, even if all the ingredients were present. But in the light of relatively recent work by Joseph, Schild, Gibson, Wickramasinghe, Sharov (see Journal of Cosmology Volume 5, ), and others, all this would lead to the dramatic conclusion that life may be abundant and wide spread throughout the universe (Joseph and Schild 2010a,b).

Read more... http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_18zzk.htm

First I should clarify what I understand by the term ET Visitors. These are physical alien races who come from other planets. They come here only for one purpose: to mine and take physical resources they need for their own civilizations. I also call them ET Traders, because they are (in analogy with our human terms) businessmen. They are the predominant alien visitors. They are not spiritually evolved, and they care only about obtaining resources (and that includes biological life forms) and they sell and trade them with other alien races. They don't care at all about the well-being of the life forms on this planet (including humans).
There are also benevolent (towards humans) alien races who come and visit us, but they are rare. They are more spiritually evolved. They do not engage (or very little) in the cosmic trade. They do not interfere with humanity's evolution. At most they give us valuable information and knowledge. Because the ET Traders control this section of the Milky Way galaxy, the benevolent alien races are generally not allowed to visit humanity on Earth. Nevertheless, at present there is an active, although covert, support for humanity from the side of the benevolent ETs. 
However, I am going to talk about several aspects of the ET Traders that you really need to understand for your own sake, because you are in the middle of it, whether you realize it or not.
 
First, you have to understand that planet Earth has been 'geo-engineered' from in the beginning by spiritually advanced cosmic beings. Our solar system is only about 5 billion years old, while the universe is at least 15 billion years old. Before our solar system took form, there were already countless intelligent beings swarming all over the universe. Some of them evolved spiritually and gained tremendous knowledge and understanding, others advanced technologically to a degree that we presently cannot understand. Our own technology is only 150 years old. Alien races had millions, even billions of years to figure things out and to construct extremely advanced technology. We, as humans, are just babies in this regard.
So, since the beginning of the formation of the Earth, certain cosmic creators seeded life forms on this planet, and installed energy grids, with the purpose of the creation of intelligent life forms. These cosmic creators are a group of different alien races, some physical some non-physical. They created the different hominids. Homo Sapiens, or modern man, was introduced on Earth a couple of millions years ago. Humans had always lived in peace and harmony on this planet. They established several civilizations that came and went. Lemuria and Atlantis refer primarily to two time periods, as their civilizations spanned the entire globe, although the primary centers were in different locations. During this entire period, humanity always had contact with extraterrestrials. Some of them came here in their spaceships and brought technology with them. Some came here in spirit form and brought knowledge and wisdom. 

Humanity, which was a genetically created form based on the DNA of twelve different alien races, became unbalanced somewhere in the second half of the Atlantis period.
It was around this time that a different group of ETs showed up: the ET Traders. When they found this solar system, they discovered great commercial opportunities. This solar system was full of resources. Not only metals and minerals, but Earth had a tremendous biodiversity rarely found in our galaxy, and humanity was still in a rather primitive state of being, despite their already advanced civilizations. Humanity was not able to defend their territory, planet Earth, from the Et Traders' intrusion. The ET Traders decided to move into this solar system and start mining its resources.
Because military invasion is not allowed in this section of the galaxy (that would upset the flow of goods), they had to resort to other means in order to subdue humanity. They did not want to wipe out humanity because humans themselves are a biological resource in more than one way. Thus, they took control over humanity in many different ways which are normally not recognized because their methods are subtle but very effective. 
But first you need to understand a little history. 
 

The Arrival of the ET Traders

The Et Traders group arrived initially in the second half of the Atlantean period. I think they already took advantage from the disputes that were going on among the ruling classes of Atlantis. But they made their grand entrance about 12,000 years ago. It was a grand entrance because they brought in a huge planetoid body that would serve as a base of operations: the Moon.
 
The following might be unbelievable, but take into account these alien races are millions of years ahead of us in technological achievements. They brought in a base of operations in regards to Earth. Look up into the sky and you will see it: the Moon. When you want to mine a planet you bring a satellite into orbit that serves as a base of operations. One that can withstand occasional cosmic bombardments of asteroids with a shield thick enough to protect you from lethal cosmic radiation.
It might sound strange to claim that our Moon is a satellite that actually does not belong to the Earth. It is a small planetary body that came from somewhere else. It might have been a moon from one of the larger planets in our solar system, and it probably had been inhabited at that time. The Moon is littered with ruins, what shows that it once had an atmosphere and a civilization. That civilization was probably wiped out by the ET Traders long ago. We know from scientific experiments that the Moon is largely hollow, that is, it has been hollowed out. I don't think it is completely hollow, but it probably has a lot of hollow spaces in it.


The Earth might have captured the Moon when it flung away due to the explosion of the former fifth planet (now the asteroid belt), but I think it might have been brought here by the ET Traders. I think it has an immense technological device in it that serves as a transport mechanism for moving the Moon through space. The rest of the hollow spaces then serve as living quarters and for what ever else they need them for. This is speculation of course, but there are enough indications that this happened about 12,000 years ago, when the Earth was ravaged by tremendous earthquakes and floods, due to the gravitational tug when the Moon arrived.
I find it revealing that mankind has memory and records of a time when the Earth did not have the (present) Moon. Thus, the arrival of the Moon cannot have been that long ago.

http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/alienmanipulation.htm

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