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France to force big supermarkets to give away unsold food to charity

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About time too!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/22/france-to-force-big-supermarkets-to-give-away-unsold-food-to-charity

France’s parliament has pledged to crack down on a national epidemic of food waste by passing a law banning supermarkets destroying unsold food, instead obliging them to give it to charities or put it to other uses such as animal feed.

The national assembly voted unanimously on Thursday evening in favour of the measure, proposed by the Socialist deputy Guillaume Garot, a former food minister. “It’s scandalous to see bleach being poured into supermarket dustbins along with edible foods,” he said.

The law explicitly bans the practice of supermarkets deliberately spoiling unsold food so it cannot be eaten. Bigger supermarkets – those with a footprint of 400 sq m or more – will be obliged to sign formal contracts with charities by July next year, or face penalties including fines of up to €75,000 (£53,000) or two years in jail.

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What great idea!  I mod a site of travelers - train hoppers, hitchhikers, squatters, etc - and they go dumpster diving - sometimes it's a food bonanza - other time they run into the bleach thing.  Giving it to charity is a good thing.

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good idea indeed. here, safeway and whole foods give away extra foods to our meals on wheels and food bank. in san francisco, i used to go dumpster diving when times were desperate. amazing what restaurants throw away..edible food that isnt even rotten nor half eaten

 
 
 

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What great idea!  I mod a site of travelers - train hoppers, hitchhikers, squatters, etc - and they go dumpster diving - sometimes it's a food bonanza - other time they run into the bleach thing.  Giving it to charity is a good thing.

​Counter culture for the win! 

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good idea indeed. here, safeway and whole foods give away extra foods to our meals on wheels and food bank. in san francisco, i used to go dumpster diving when times were desperate. amazing what restaurants throw away..edible food that isnt even rotten nor half eaten

 
 
 

​It's the human thing to do and I bet it's also good PR for them. Everybody wins! 

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While I would choose to donate foods to charities if I were running a grocery store and had unsellable (but edible) foods, I see that law as excessively intrusive to a person's/company's property rights.

The stores buy the food. It belongs to the store.

The problem is not the store that destroys unsold food stuffs. The problem is stupid consumers who support such stores by buying anything from them.

More legislation is never the answer to a societal problem, and legislation like this opens the door for other more intrusive property rights issues in the future.

While I firmly believe you have the inalienable right to grow and harvest your own food, you have no right to someone else's food no matter if it is a large company or Mom and Pop store. 

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While I would choose to donate foods to charities if I were running a grocery store and had unsellable (but edible) foods, I see that law as excessively intrusive to a person's/company's property rights.

The stores buy the food. It belongs to the store.

The problem is not the store that destroys unsold food stuffs. The problem is stupid consumers who support such stores by buying anything from them.

More legislation is never the answer to a societal problem, and legislation like this opens the door for other more intrusive property rights issues in the future.

While I firmly believe you have the inalienable right to grow and harvest your own food, you have no right to someone else's food no matter if it is a large company or Mom and Pop store. 

​I knew I would see a post like yours.

Way to twist the issue. This isn't about taking some one else's food this is about distributing their waste.

 

 

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​I knew I would see a post like yours.

Way to twist the issue. This isn't about taking some one else's food this is about distributing their waste.

 

 

Twist the issue? Telling people and companies what they are to do with their property is the issue at the center of this.

But I like the way you project! Starting with the claim that I "twist the issue", then finish by actually twisting the issue. Not about taking their food, it's about "distributing their waste", which is the same thing as taking their food since it is intended to be used as... wait for it..... food. 

Either way, food or waste, it is still their property.

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I'm not twisting anything. You seem to have a black and white view about property rights. I don't. 

As far as the supermarkets are concerned it is waste, going to landfill. The law is intended to stop them rendering it useless so that it can be distributed to hungry people. In this case I fully agree with the law. 

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I think there should be intensives to donate it, not laws. Tax breaks and such.
Will the company have to pay for the transport to food banks or farms? If so that's not fair.
If the government pays for the transport then it's on the tax payers. That's not right either.
If the homeless or the farmers pick it up then do they have to take it all so there's no waste?
Looks to me like this could get complicated.

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I'm not twisting anything. You seem to have a black and white view about property rights. I don't. 

As far as the supermarkets are concerned it is waste, going to landfill. The law is intended to stop them rendering it useless so that it can be distributed to hungry people. In this case I fully agree with the law. 

​Yes, I certainly do have a very back or white view of property rights. The reason is because you either do, or do not, own something. 

Like I said in my first post in this thread, I don't agree with the practice of wasting the food, but worse by far is the government telling you what you must do with your property.

Also, Lucy brings up some good points about transportation of the food. The article looks like Supermarkets expect the charities to do the transporting:
"Supermarkets have said that charities must now also be properly equipped with fridges and trucks to be able to handle the food donations."

There is one part of the law that I do actually like. The education aspect of food waste. Not sure a Law is needed for common sense, but it seem like people get dumber by the year.

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