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OHP Uses New Device To Seize Money Used During The Commission Of A Crime (Oklahoma)

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OKLAHOMA CITY -

You may have heard of civil asset forfeiture.  

That's where police can seize your property and cash without first proving you committed a crime; without a warrant and without arresting you, as long as they suspect that your property is somehow tied to a crime.

Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.

It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and state police began using 16 of them last month.  

Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money.  

"We're gonna look for different factors in the way that you're acting,” Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent said. “We're gonna look for if there's a difference in your story. If there's someway that we can prove that you're falsifying information to us about your business."

Troopers insist this isn't just about seizing cash.  

"I know that a lot of people are just going to focus on the seizing money. That's a very small thing that' s happening now. The largest part that we have found ... the biggest benefit has been the identity theft," Vincent said.

"If you can prove can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized. 

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http://www.news9.com/story/32168555/ohp-uses-new-device-to-seize-money-used-during-the-commission-of-a-crime

Whoa! Now this is taking police power to a whole new level!  

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Man, we are soooo toast.  And we're going to need a lot 'o rope....(fortunately rope is great for that repurpose, reuse, recycle thing)

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Just now, Jostler said:

Man, we are soooo toast.  And we're going to need a lot 'o rope....(fortunately rope is great for that repurpose, reuse, recycle thing)

Hemp makes the best rope! 

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Oh how nice of the Mobile Department of Extortion needing another excuse to just reach over and take your money.

 

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This is like, ok so if you ever say if the green plant mj is not legal there (I have no idea) and you buy it and they suspect it, they can sieze all of your money (debit card with money in acct/savings acct card) regardless of the balance, just because you bought a $5 piece. After all, they say these people are a gang. They are, see copblock.org

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14 minutes ago, rbear said:

This is like, ok so if you ever say if the green plant mj is not legal there (I have no idea) and you buy it and they suspect it, they can sieze all of your money (debit card with money in acct/savings acct card) regardless of the balance, just because you bought a $5 piece. After all, they say these people are a gang. They are, see copblock.org

https://www.youtube.com/embed/-qEr_mZf06Y 

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"The EBT system is down in CA, NY, NJ WA, AZ, TX and others states.That means that a LOT of people were not able to buy food and as far as I know based on downdetector.com, there are people who STILL do not have any means to buy food."

I never had a problem at work processing those payments. The machine never gave any problems unless the card was damaged. I always tell them then they need to get a new card if its damaged. Often, they won't bother. Same problems, diff times. Eventually they will finally ask for one. Same goes for cc people/debit though so no difference in behavior.

 

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Get ready the shit is about to hit the fan. Coming soon no internet, no cell phones, no food stamps, no SSI, no withdrawing money from the ATM. Have your piece ready your gonna need it. Hunger will make people do all sorts of things.

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Similar topic, and if this doesn't make you do a slow burn....

How the IRS Used Civil Asset Forfeiture to Ruin the Lives of Two Connecticut Bakers

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Though the federal government had still not filed criminal charges against the brothers, Jongbloed wanted them to plead guilty to structuring, a felony, and admit that they’d “acted with the intent to evade the reporting requirement.” By doing so, the Vocaturas would be subject to a potential four-year prison sentence and would have to agree to forfeit both the initial $68,000 and an additional $160,000 in personal assets between them.

But by getting the Vocaturas to admit guilt, the IRS would also have been able to keep the brothers from speaking out about their case. The plea deal would have served as an admission that the government had some cause to take their money. Nobody could accuse the government of once again abusing civil forfeiture if the victims ultimately handed over the money as punishment for a crime they had copped to.

Jongbloed noted that sanctions could be harsher if the case went to trial, and encouraged the Vocaturas to take the deal. The brothers, who still insist that they’ve done nothing wrong, rejected that offer.

On May 10, Jongbloed responded by demanding more than six years of business records documenting all of the bakery’s dealings. He finally wants to figure out if the Vocaturas had actually broken the law when IRS agents raided their account.

If you can read that whole article and not want to come up swinging you're .....lost.

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OKLAHOMA CITY -

You may have heard of civil asset forfeiture.  

That's where police can seize your property and cash without first proving you committed a crime; without a warrant and without arresting you, as long as they suspect that your property is somehow tied to a crime.

Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.

It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and state police began using 16 of them last month.  

Here's how it works...

http://www.news9.com/story/32168555/ohp-uses-new-device-to-seize-money-used-during-the-commission-of-a-crime

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Oklahoma Cops Unveil New Device Enabling Direct Seizure Of Bank Accounts, Credit Cards

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-09/oklahoma-cops-unveil-new-device-enabling-direct-seizure-bank-accounts-credit-cards

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We have covered the disgusting topic of civil asset forfeiture numerous times (most recently here), but the latest move by Oklahoma police is quite simply shocking.

As News9 reports,

You may have heard of civil asset forfeiture. 

That's where police can seize your property and cash without first proving you committed a crime; without a warrant and without arresting you, as long as they suspect that your property is somehow tied to a crime.

Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.

It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and state police began using 16 of them last month. 

Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects you may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan any cards you have and seize the money. 

The local police chief explains... "it's not about taking money..."

 

The one state that has gone complete anti-democratic is Oklahoma. It is wise not to travel in that state at all. Oklahoma should be on a no fly zone. Now Oklahoma police can outright just seize everything you have from debit cards to bank accounts on a traffic stop without any criminal charges being filed – just some policeman “thinks” and your life is over. With no money, you cannot hire a lawyer so they can now just rob everything you have on a whim.

 

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol has introduced a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards, which they call ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine. State police began using 16 of theses last month and this is a state now where the police have become literally the highway robbers. This makes the traffic cops in Russia pulling you over for speeding and you just pay them and they go away as a far more civilized arrangement. Here, they can rob you of everything.Let’s say a state trooper “suspects” or just “thinks” you may have money tied to some type of crime – any crime. He can now scan any cards you have and seize the money in your wallet. He does not have to charge you with any crime. He just “thinks” you might be connected to anything he can imagine. There is no right to remain silent, for he is not charging you. He is after all your money because they are broke.

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This is literal robbery by cops. Say your on your way to pay your land lord the rent for the month and it's in cash. You get pulled over for going 42 in a 35. Cop sees the money and assumes you sell drugs. Not only does your money get taken your rent doesn't get paid and you get booted out of your house. What kind of BS is this. Take my money with out charging me and I will give you something to charge me with.  This is utter bs and the people of OK need to stand up to this type of tyranny! 

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